supervike Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Ok...first of all...something aint right in me head.... otherwise, why would I plop good money down for this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290004258711&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D%2B290004258711%2B%2B%26fvi%3D1 But, mostly I blame you people. I never paid any attention to HP Lovecraft until Leadasbestos mentioned it, and the Vince elaborated. So, I start reading the stuff.. Then Nathan fosters it by posting pictures of a cool looking Cthulhu thats due out in October... This Horrorclix one is fantastic looking, and I even had made my mind up to get one at GenCon (where they will be sold for a more reasonable price I'm sure) BUT...my wife put an end to those dreams, since we have to visit the IN-Laws during that week..... So, I succumbed to the madness....what the hell am I going to do with this thing!! Oh sanity, why does thou fail me? It's all your fault people.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 (laughing) A pretty penny for a pretty peice but I think your going to enjoy it. That's a big bugger too if I recall correctly. While your spending your insanity on hard to get things, look up a movie called 'Cast a Deadly Spell' with Fred Ward which is based, loosely, on the HP Lovecraft background. I spent 10 years looking for this video and finally found it (couldn't even get it online). Now of course, its online and can be found (grrr). You might enjoy it, one of my favorite movies. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6302233941/102-5217216-8184902?v=glance&n=404272 So what are you going to do with that massive beast - find a place of pride on your desk or are you going to go all 'collector' and stuff it away to collect dust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincegamer Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Ok...first of all...something aint right in me head.... So, I succumbed to the madness....what the hell am I going to do with this thing!! Oh sanity, why does thou fail me?considering the subject matter, what did you expect other than madness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebrushworth Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 considering the subject matter, what did you expect other than madness? MUAHAHAHAHAHA and a little Yog Sothothothtothothtohthery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 (laughing) A pretty penny for a pretty peice but I think your going to enjoy it. That's a big bugger too if I recall correctly. While your spending your insanity on hard to get things, look up a movie called 'Cast a Deadly Spell' with Fred Ward which is based, loosely, on the HP Lovecraft background. I spent 10 years looking for this video and finally found it (couldn't even get it online). Now of course, its online and can be found (grrr). You might enjoy it, one of my favorite movies. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6302233941/102-5217216-8184902?v=glance&n=404272 So what are you going to do with that massive beast - find a place of pride on your desk or are you going to go all 'collector' and stuff it away to collect dust? That movie looks right up my alley! Netflix doesnt have it....and I don't have a VCR anymore....so hopefully I can land it on DVD. There was a Sam Neill one that was 'heavily influenced' I just recently watched via NETFLIX called 'In the Mouth of Madness"...not great by any standards, but decent enough....Had some cool "old ones" at the end.... As to what I will actually do with it....Maybe repaint it....most likely just put it on the shelf and wish I had my money back.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 But, mostly I blame you people. I never paid any attention to HP Lovecraft until Leadasbestos mentioned it, and the Vince elaborated. So, I start reading the stuff.. Then Nathan fosters it by posting pictures of a cool looking Cthulhu thats due out in October.... Ummm, you know, you don't need to blame all of us, I think you pretty much listed the 3 that you really should blame, I suggest keying their cars It is pretty nice though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Erm, Eric, can I borrow your car for the week? (bastard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadAsbestos Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 My car is the one w/ the Cthulhu for President bumper sticker, so it should be easy to find, esp. considering your mission! In the Mouth of Madness was great! Now on to Dagon and Re-Animator. Glad I could help corrupt... I mean, help you find you way. Cthulhu fhtagn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted July 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Ah...I loved Dagon as well....The Reanimator was a cheesy as could be, can't say I was a big fan of the movie..BUT the story was much more enjoyable (and creepy as hell) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Farstrider Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Never Read any of the books myself, but that is one cool looking Mini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Ah...I had never read any of the books either Drake...but did so on a few recommendations from this luverly site....It kind of gets in your blood! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I think I'm going to have to pick up another of his works and give it a try. I read some of his stuff when I was younger, probably about fifteen years back, and don't remember being all that impressed with it at the time, though granted, I was a fantasy freak at the time, so that might have somethng to account for it. What's the best out of his works? I'll pick it up this week and give HP another go. I know I like the concept and premise of the writing, but I just can't remember being impressed with it (like Tolkien ... I hate his writing, I really do, but I like the premise, and obviously the fact that it spawned so many fantasy writers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Most of his stories are relatively short...so you don't spend a lot of time invested in trying to determine if you like it or not.... Almost all the novels that are out under his name are compilations of his work...mostly he printed stories for pulp magazines. Admittedly, I am still working my way through his stuff, but there are several I would recommend right away.. The Reanimator The Lurking Fear The Case of Charles Dexter Ward The Shadow over Innsmouth The Shadow out of Time The cool thing is you can find ALL of his stories, for free on the internet...I don't know about the copyrightness of it...but they are there if you'd like to give a few a go. http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/index.html I think his style is a bit of an aquired taste. He uses words that would have been out of date even in the 20-30's when he wrote them...so its not a bad idea to have a dictionary handy...But I find the use of those words lends itself a more to the 'gothic' feel of the stories. Also, he almost ALWAYS writes in a 1st person narrative...something I really enjoy. I think it adds a neat element as well. Don't go in expecting too much. This is not the graphic Clive Barkeresque story telling...Much of it just sets the mood, and your imagination fills in the rest. The stories were written in a simpler time, and it is not so much 'in your face' as modern horror stories are written. I haven't read the 'whoppers' of his..."Into the Mountains of Madness and The Call of Cthulhu", but am working (albeit slowly) towards those. His writing career went through different phases as well....First he seemed obsessed with scientists bringing back the dead and other 'one off' type stories, then there was his era of 'dreamlike' worlds, and then lastly came his 'Cthulhu mythos' stories, where ancient evils lurk behind the scenes. I hope you find any of this helpful, and I'd love to hear anyones opinions on Lovecraft as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadAsbestos Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Your best bang for your buck read would be the collection "Bloodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre". Still in print, trade paper for abt $12 new, and it has all the best HPL short stories. If you like those, spread out to Mountains of Madness or CD Ward which are quite a bit longer, but still excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincegamer Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 This is not the graphic Clive Barkeresque story telling...Much of it just sets the mood, and your imagination fills in the rest. The stories were written in a simpler time, and it is not so much 'in your face' as modern horror stories are written.Actually, HPL had a theory about this which he explains in some of his essays on writing. I think I can quote the premise: "The oldest emotion is fear, and the greatest of fears is the fear of the unknown." He left his monsters mostly undescribed becaus it left it open to the imagination of the reader and the imagined monster is always worse than the described monster. An example: when you hear that a monster towers 20 feet tall, no matter how scary you find that, a tiny voice in your head will say "at least it wasn't 40 feet tall." But if you say the monster stood towering against the sky like an Egyptian obelisk brought to hideous life, then your mind makes it tall enough to be scary enough for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted July 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 I remember when you told me that originally VG...and it was a fact that really impressed me about Lovecraft...he was smart enough to leave details vague on purpose.. But, do you think modern readers, and ones who have been subjected to gory horror movies can still conjure up the imagination it takes....or has that been beaten out of us by shocking images? It makes me think of love scenes in movies....I'm not a prude or anything, but racy and graphic love scenes make me uncomfortable. It just not something I care to sit through, even with just my and my wife. Saavy directors have always just hinted at the bedroom action, and my sick twisted little mind is good enough to fill in the horny details...To me that is much better film making... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincegamer Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 But, do you think modern readers, and ones who have been subjected to gory horror movies can still conjure up the imagination it takes....or has that been beaten out of us by shocking images? I think if the adjectives you use are well chosen, you can lead the average modern reader to imagine worse than the horrors he's already desensitized to, but HPL didn't have to do that, tis true. It makes me think of love scenes in movies....I'm not a prude or anything, but racy and graphic love scenes make me uncomfortable. It just not something I care to sit through, even with just my and my wife. Saavy directors have always just hinted at the bedroom action, and my sick twisted little mind is good enough to fill in the horny details...To me that is much better film making...I learned something about myself from watching porn: I like looking at naked women - but I don't like watching other people have sex. Yeah, I prefer the behind closed doors love scenes - though I think we're beyond the "From Here to Eternity" days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 You know, that is actually an interesting subject you two have hit on, with shock and gore, porn and taking it too far, and the simple imagination. I like a great fight scene in a movie, something with plenty of action and movement and lots of fun details, but I absolutely HATE seeing anything that it just outright sadistic and what I feel is in bad taste. For example, that movie 'Hostel'. Never watched it, but just from the damn previews, all the toe cutting, ball gags and sharp deadly things done in torture on people tells me right there I have no interest. Same thing with 'Saw'. Bleah. Then you take sex. I'm the same way - I can fill in the details, I really don't need to see a three or four minutes love seen with the sheets being twisted, the back of someones bare ass and the hint of dirtier sex going on. Not my thing in the least. I also really hate to see anything that involves rape on the screen, or for that matter in books, as it makes me quite uncomfortable and is something I don't find entertaining in the least bit, even if it is to tell a story of some sort. I've been known to change the channel or flat out get up and leave a theatre over that (wife thinks its odd, but at the same time preferes that to me getting all hot about it .. bleah .. bleah and ... yuck!). There is nothing more that I like than a good book when it comes to entertainment - I go through about ten or so books on average a month, if I've got a real good series or a lot of down time, upwards to fifteen. I read fast. But I love having something that grabs you up and use your imagination so I have a feeling that I'm going to enjoy reading some of these HP works, particularly short stories as I like something that I can pick up for half an hour, read through a story, and then put down without wanting to know what happens in the next chapter (that has kept me up more than one night ..) Sometimes I wonder if kids have gotten a raw deal these days, as if its not easy or given to them in a neat package, they don't want it. Too many kids out there that don't want to use their imagination it seems, just would rather have it all thrown in their faces on TV or games. Thankfully mine have inherited my love for books, and I'm willing to bet the kids have three hundred books between the three of them easily. I had a curiosity here a bit back and asked the kids if they wanted to go to the toy store or the book store and pick out one thing. Both the girls said book store (thankfully) and the boy wanted a toy. Not too bad. Course when we got to the book store the boy changed his mind and decided on instant gratification instead of waiting another half hour to go somewhere, and got himself a book instead. To swing this back on topic somewhat - you ever get that beat Jim? How does it look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted July 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Actually the beastie arrived just today. I ran home for lunch, and there he sat, on the door step. I will have to admit, I am pretty impressed with it. The paint job, which I was worried would be in typical (terrible) hero-clix fashion is almost decent. There is an ugly mold line that runs around the body, but I think that is something only us types really notice. Once his wings are attached he is massive, mini speaking. Probably 15 inches or so from the ground to the top of his wings. He has got a weird plastic feel in spots...someplaces is hard, others (like his protruding belly) are more rubbery. And he smells soooo plasticy...I love the smell of Cthulhu in the morning. The one thing I don't like, and never noticed from the pictures, is that part of his back leg is missing, as if it were 'submerged' and he is rising through the water. It makes sense, I suppose, but I want two finished feet! Not a big deal. Is he worth the price I paid? Hardly. Its just a hunk of plastic. But to me, yes it is. I've blown money on dumber things, but stuff like that makes me happy. Plus its much cheaper than hookers and beer, and I will get fewer urinary track infections this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Farstrider Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Well I had the chance to read my 1st HPL story(The Lurking Fear), I must admit I rather enjoyed it. I may have to read other's. Thanks for that link Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincegamer Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Hey, I didn't know there was a harbinger of Fury smiley! :flaminghe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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