Melting point (Kaeris reborn)

[Mortarion]

Kaeris reborn has a tactical action called Melting point. It is a 3" that states that "This Action may draw LoS and range from friendly Wildfire models with Burning +3 or more."

Does this mean that:
A) Kaeris may choose either herself or a single Wildfire model with Burning +3 or more to be the centre of the pulse,
B) The pulse will extend from Kaeris and all Wildfire models with Burning +3 or more,
C) Kaeris may choose which models the pulse extends from, from a pool of herself and any Wildfire models with Burning +3 or more.

At first I read it as A), but when thinking more about it I am starting to think that it might be C) that is correct. Opinions?

[solkan]

Boo.  This is in the FAQ:

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Kaeris, Reborn – When taking the Melting Point Action, does the Action draw range and LoS from all friendly Wildfire models with Burning +3 or more or just a single model?*
a) Just a single model.

So it’s A.

[muraki]

I'd say A.  Determining LoS and Range just overwrites the range from the original model.  Is similar to the way that things like ice mirror / etc work.  You dont get 3-6 shots out ice pillars / zoraida's eyes in the night, so same applies here.

[solkan]

Kaltgeist’s Icy Winds action’s wording implies that it’s C.  
Edit:  But this was FAQ’d.  

[muraki]

31 minutes ago, solkan said:

Kaltgeist’s Icy Winds action’s wording implies that it’s C.  
Edit:  But this was FAQ’d.  

Even if it wasnt faqed icy winds is a bit different.  Icy winds goes:

'this action may draw range and los from any one ice pillar marker within 8" in addition to drawing range and los from this model'

compared to melting point

'This Action may draw LoS and range from friendly Wildfire models with Burning +3 or more'

So the big difference is one explicitly calls out 'there's 2 points where the action is coming out of' vs melting which only specifies a single LoS and Range component.

[solkan]

2 hours ago, muraki said:

Even if it wasnt faqed icy winds is a bit different.  Icy winds goes:

'this action may draw range and los from any one ice pillar marker within 8" in addition to drawing range and los from this model'

compared to melting point

'This Action may draw LoS and range from friendly Wildfire models with Burning +3 or more'

So the big difference is one explicitly calls out 'there's 2 points where the action is coming out of' vs melting which only specifies a single LoS and Range component.

My irrelevant point (because there’s a faq) was that Icy Winds calling out to only use one pillar implies that that’s not the case.  And there’s the FAQ about Titania’s of Autumn ability where all of the models generate auras instead of being limited.

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Titania, Autumn Queen – How does the Herald of Autumn ability on the Titania’s Chosen Upgrade interact with non-lasting auras such as from her Royal Escort and Queen’s Domain Abilities.*
a) These auras are generated from both Titania and all models with the Herald of Autumn Ability.

where that’s also a “may draw range and line of sight” ability.

 

[muraki]

That makes sense.  The explicit call out on kalts is kind of odd as most of the other abilities dont have that level of double checking, but maybe it is so the 'you get only 2 pulses, no more' is clear.  That Titania upgrade is a silly one.  I wonder if its because its one of the few 'copy an aura' to another model (as the rest of these discussions regard pulses or targetting actions which are way more 'you determine where this starts and that's it')

[Mortarion]

12 hours ago, solkan said:

Boo.  This is in the FAQ:

So it’s A.

Ah. Checking the FAQ... A most advanced technique which I clearly have not mastered yet. Doh! 😄
Thank you!