Rift Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 Execute states this The target may either discard a card or a soulstone. If it does neither, it is killed, ignoring demise abilities. If a model is not a master or a henceman...in other words a model that can't use soulstones....can they still discard a soulstone if you get this trigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 Discarding a soulstone is not using a soulstone, so yes you don't need to be able to use a soulstone to discard one to stop you being executed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Posted July 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Sounds good, are you 100% sure about this. Is there any way you can make that statement more definitive by using rules or statements from the rule book itself. I can just see this debate coming up and simply saying discarding is not the same as using just comes across as an opinion. Dont get me wrong, I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeperColony Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rift said: Sounds good, are you 100% sure about this. Is there any way you can make that statement more definitive by using rules or statements from the rule book itself. I can just see this debate coming up and simply saying discarding is not the same as using just comes across as an opinion. Dont get me wrong, I agree with you. One way that may carry credence with a potential opponent is to ask this in the rules section, where a consensus answer may emerge that you can link to on your phone or something. Still won't be official, but may carry some weight. Especially if the answer is logically sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Discarding isn't using. The rules on soulstones say henches and masters can use them but I don't think it ever says soulstone users can just discard them at any time so either the ability allows everyone to discard a soulstone or no one can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Rift said: Sounds good, are you 100% sure about this. Is there any way you can make that statement more definitive by using rules or statements from the rule book itself. I can just see this debate coming up and simply saying discarding is not the same as using just comes across as an opinion. Dont get me wrong, I agree with you. The best I can offer is that Soulstone use is on page 27. That page tells you only Masters and henchmen can use soulstone and then tells you what the uses of soulstone are. Discarding a soulstone for a game effect isn't one of the uses. So I'm going by the rules clearly tell me what Soulstone users can do with soulstone, and clearly labels it as soul stone use or spending a soulstone. Discarding a soulstone isn't on the list of things that you need to be able to use soulstone to do. There is also the many years of having played this, and the knowledge of the evolution of discarding a soulstone for execute triggers leads me to assume that as the wording hasn't changed,. so I don't expect the intent to have changed with no evidence, although I fully understand this is not a good argument to use to convince someone else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rift Posted July 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Thank you. Im sure thats fine. appreciate the insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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