fengor Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Situation: Enemy model is standing in sight of a Rotten Belle on HT3 terrain with a railing that is defined as Ht1 Softcover climbable. Question 1: Can the belle lure him off the terrain? Question 2: Does the enemy model take 3 or 4 falling damage? My reasoning: Q1: Yes, since it is a legal move that puts the model closest to the belle although it hurts. Q2: 4 Damage, since he jumps off the railing. Although regarding Q2 the case could be made that he jumps over the railing and only suffers 3 dmg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bengt Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Assuming you mean Impassable Climbable and that it wouldn't take less movement to walk around the obstacle then the model would climb up on it before dropping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SpiralngCadavr Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Pushes specifically don't allow you to climb, so the enemy would bump against the rail. corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bengt Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Pushes specifically don't allow you to climb, so the enemy would bump against the rail. Lure is a Move, not a push. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SpiralngCadavr Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Oops, never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Fetid Strumpet Posted November 14, 2014 Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Agreed. 1) Yes the Belle can lure him off the terrain. 2) It gets tricky here. As Bengt mentioned, if spending the movement to climb the railing and then dropping gets the model closer to the Luring model than it would otherwise by walking around the edge of the railing and then dropping and returning course, then yes the model would absolutely climb the railing and fall from a greater height. However if swerving to the side, falling, and then swerving back takes up less movement then that spent climbing, then the model will fall from the lesser height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fengor Posted November 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yes going over the railing made him closer to the belle than the walking off to the side. Gonna add that to the standard movement shenanigans then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 EnternalVoid Posted November 15, 2014 Report Share Posted November 15, 2014 To avoid the rail issue in our group I had suggested just counting measurement up to the height they stand on, so in the example Ht 3, and ledges and rails be nothing more than cover. It avoids little problems like this and issues where the piece is 3 inches and the siding is like 0.42 inches or 0.75 inches. Also avoids you having to climb up a ledge and then climb down the side. Of course this also means those same ledges and rails don't stop pushes that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Situation: Enemy model is standing in sight of a Rotten Belle on HT3 terrain with a railing that is defined as Ht1 Softcover climbable.
Question 1: Can the belle lure him off the terrain?
Question 2: Does the enemy model take 3 or 4 falling damage?
My reasoning:
Q1: Yes, since it is a legal move that puts the model closest to the belle although it hurts.
Q2: 4 Damage, since he jumps off the railing.
Although regarding Q2 the case could be made that he jumps over the railing and only suffers 3 dmg.
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