Daysleeper Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Hi Malifolks, i just ended a game against Lilith and i feel so frustrated ... i need some tipps :-) First of all my disclaimer, i haven't played Malifaux in 6-7 months so i was more than a little rusty, forgive my obvious mistakes in crew selection. So a friend of mine recently got Lilith and we wanted to play a 35 Stones game. Our Bord had lots off terrain (almost all of it passable - i know, i know ... yeah NOW i know ^^) and was pretty symetrical. Our Strategy was Reconnoiter, Schemepool was a line in the sand, make them suffer, deliver a message, protect territory and breakthrough. Close deployment ... bad for me, as i learned soon enough I immediately told him i wasn't gonna play my Seamus Crew as he played a new crew and i wanted to play with Yan Lo to even the playing field a little bit, because i haven't played him very often so far. I looked at the schemepool and immediately thought of Necropunks for deliver a message but decided against it because it fealt cheasy against him (he doesnt play very often). So i choose - i have to say - a very bad list (again - i'm very rusty, forgive me) and played with the following: Yan Lo - Relinquary - Brutal Krakakrakrakaka Soulporter Toshiro - command the graves Nurse Punk Zombie Chiaky the Niece - pull of the grave +1 Stone (5 Stones total) He played ... Lilith - big sword - something else i think 3 Terror tots Barbados - Whirlwind / Hurricane thingy Cherub Young Nephilim ... what then happened was just brutal to behold. At the end of the first round Yan Lo barely managed to escape with his life after lilith tried to teleport him (wich i foiled - but that cost me all my good cards). Then the cherub shot him twice, pushed him towards barbosa and the yound. He then lightning danced away. Just to be reminded that those buggers are still faster than him. They killed him in turn two, Toshiro as a sideeffect (damn you flay), my poor soulporter ...and gave the punk and the nurse slow. Before killing him he delivered a message to Yan Lo -.- I called it then and there and i felt utterly without a chance Any tipps on how to defend this speedfueled meatgrinder of a crew? ... and even more important, how do you build a 35 Stones Yan Lo crew when all the important ancestors are so expensive? Thanks for your answers ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausplosions Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 The game is not built for 35SS An Ancestor Yan crew is heavily disadvantaged in such a TINY game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausplosions Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Typical game is 45-50ss. Having said that... Don't deploy Yan so far forward if you are worried about a Lilith transposition. Take Crooligans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Looking at your List, Toshiro just didn't have the minions to get off the ground. He'd have been better replaced with Izamu. Fun fact about Ancestors, Yan Lo is really under no obligation to load up on them. YanLo is just as happy (actually some might say more so) running really light on ancestors if any. They are great specialists though (condition removal, beater, tarpit, minion buffing). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sezar Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Against Neverborn, mostly a Melee faction without Armour Ignoring, Drowneds are great tarpit modelsas well as the already mentioned Izamu. And you don't really have to deploy that far on a Close Deployment, less so if you are facing such a Crew as Lilith's. Also, remember you can always shut down their Walks and Charges with Yan Lo's Terracotta Curse, as well as Yin can really exploits Lilith's low Wp with great success. Ashigarus can also make your opponent's Charges less desirables with Braced, and Jaakuna (as well as teaming great with Drowneds) can give you some great control over the table, and again forbid enemy models from moving. Actually, the last time I faced Lilith, Jaakuna was most probably the MVP then, now that I think about it, her (0) is great against that kind of Melee Crews, never forget to use it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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