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Don't give the staff strange ideas...oh, wait, I like it *grin*

If I heard it right, she (?) should have terrifying, flight, a damaging aura and a 3'' weapon that drags and lets you attack again (with another weapon, I guess).

Not much experience, but I think he is a lot more useful in defense. His triggers might be a bit card intensive, but not many minions like to attack Df 6/8 on defensive stance that can riposte them, or leap away (if they have 2'' of melee). Problem is, I'm not going to field him much under 25ss.

Terrifying outcast? Viktorias want!

Good to know...for my opponents *wink*

Since this seems the right place to ask to avoid too off topic in the outcasts thread so...how the effigies (and other models with aetheric demands...I could say vanessa but I'll not) work with the viktorias? They count as 1 leader, or being 2 models they count as 2, so you could take an effigy and another model with aetheric demands?

Two words if non-living is true: arcane effigy. *devil*

Yes, the outcast section has been a little empty of spoilers... ...I just want to know if the flaming staff lady (Vanessa right?) has defensive spells/buffs. In other words, will my viktorias be happy with her?

Not much of an expert, but Nicodem seems quite good with combat buffs (but the rider needs to be nearby him) and undead heals, not to mention the fresh meat spell of mortimer that gives a free walk. I heard nico and a grave spirit can use the rider as a taxi to get around very quickly, too.

Great articulations come with great headaches.

I've seen in action a couple of avatars and I have mixed feelings about them. Ramos mostly gets movement boosts that are actually nice for objectiva grabbing, not to mention that if he doesn't die in a couple of strikes he tends to sit on piles of scrap counters (to summon constructs to get objectives done). Zoraida can be really dangerous...if she can see you. If you can outmanouver her you can keep her at bay. Lilith is indeed a big problem when she manifests, but she's a bit forest-dependant, and placement is where the trick lies. I play the viks, but their avatar did not strike me too much. Same defenses (more or less none, saving soulstones), huge combat boost, great mobility but limitations that put too much strain on my brain(new player).

So, the big question is: if I flip a red joker for damage while under the effect of fury (+2 Dg), what happens? a-red joker damage+2Dg + another flip+2Dg b-red joker+extra flip+2Dg Might be a once in a lifetime situation, but I want to be sure as some targets may still survive, and if they do, they'll probably going to erase me their next activation.

Another model that interests me is the new oiran...as a cheap 'filler' with her bag of dirty tricks (not to mention she's harmless like the ronins). Plus, the local meta is filled with wp duels (pandora, zoraida, seamus, colette...) and that +1 wp that stacks with sue's +2 sounds wicked.

Have to seriously think about Von something and the freikoprs, as I just realized the flamethrower can force morale duels, a very pretty way to slingshot the viks into battle. As for the avatar, I think it's better learning the basics first (and those 2 soulstones might get handy for healing flips/damage prevention).

Thanks. I like ronins even more now

Well, you have to start from somewhere...so I picked up the viks. Aside fomr learning how to play them, the real problem is: is the rest of the crew working? The easiest thing to do is ask *wink* (even after reading around on pullmyfinger) As of now I have (well, I will in a few days hopefully) the starter box, the ronins and sue. Taelor: a big lady with a big hammer to use as a spearhead and/or decoy to let the viks get close for the kill(s) Johann: mmm...maybe against construct or spirit heavy crews. Bishop: used once, got kicked by stitched and obeyed by zoraida. Looks nice, but 10 points are many. Ronin: nice girls, I like them a lot for objective grabbing and killing (still need to master their movement shenanigans...can they use run throught and activate the 4'' push trigger?) Sue: used once and was in the wrong place all the time, my fault. In the local meta zoraida and pandora are present, so I think it's a good choice. So, got this right? Something I'm missing (in the 'how it's used' department)? Before taking anything else I'll be waiting after gencon to see if something steals my heart, but I've already set my eyes on the librarian, maybe the trappe and lazarus (I love the robocop fluff).

New (I've actually been lurking here for a long time becasue I liked the models) group of italian players starting malifaux...and I'll probably be the one tasked with asking newbie questions and looking on the rules forum for strange erratas and/or marshals rulings. We're still few in numbers and without a henchman, but the goal is to spread madness...ehm...joy and fun as much as we can. Now, if I could only decide which master I like most...