caen

Mobility is Taleor problem - and as You Helm already noticed Lilith can solve this problem using Tangle Shadows. So, we are looking for another Hard to Kill Henchmen or Enforcer available for Neberborn - HtK and Nexus of Power combination is very powerfull.

Nasty tactics!

That is why I am asking ... in what degree hopes change into reality. Any success in finding new players for M2E in Kraków? Now it should be much easier to introduce new gamers – new edition is always best time to start new game. Maybe the turning point will be the New Rulebook?

SS Cache is for me a excelent balancing tool - if far easier to change the cache than rewrite abilities.

So, after the long and fruitful discussion .... I come to the conclusion that future of Malifaux in Poland is still to be shaped.

They looks really good - dark and scarring! Originals are a nice pets in comparison to Yours conversions.

But now numer of Peoples really intrested in cost adjustments will be signifficantly lower (becouse of M2E) - so maybe it will be easier to come to conclusion. And I think such discusion may be a constructive way to propose changes to M2E (that may be someday officially supported by WYRD - or not)

Please, why start again a WAR about what is better: M2E or v1.5. Why We have to compare the two editions? IMO it is better to focus on what we have in Lilith arsenal now that looking back .... Have You find other than proposed in first post Upgrade Combination for Lilith?

MisTake - to much of Machine, far to less of Miss.

Maybe it is worth to start a thread where We can discused which models are over- underprices and which Masters need cache adjustments?

My 3 Favorites: Original Lilith Original Lady J Nekima

Faction deck will be needed much, much longer - or WYRD will have to repackage with M2E cards all available blister and boxes. What will be told to the person who will buy in next year misaki box produced before M2E was announced if there will be no Faction Decks available? - play v1.5 or use the pages from the book?

Better edition of WarGame make my Dark Elf and Witchunter miniatures (masive colection to say the truth) to stay forever under my bed ...

I also hope that when dust settle the future of Malifaux 1.5 could be described in more than two words, becouse in this moment description is: "no future".

It was mentioned in the podcasts announcing M2E. WYRD Staff also stated in this Podcasts that they may consider some kind of Army Books in the future.

It remind me situation in Russia before Revolution – Peoples believes that Tzar cares about them and that He is a good person – every bad things comes from Advisors and Governors of Tzar And situation with Malifaux 1.5 and M2E and Your Erik involvement is maybe a bit similar – quite strong group of Malifaux 1.5 Players cannot believe that You authorized such big change (in comparison between Warmachine I and II ed – I have to admit that change in Malifaux is BIG). You have created Malifaux 1.0 and You Eric are condemning it to oblivion …

OK, so I need Rulebook and Arsenal Boxs wave I and wave II for: - Guild - Neverborn - Outcasts - Ressers - Arcanists - Gremlins I suppose it will take me some time to buy it all. I plan to focus in the begining on one fraction and slowly expand my interest on additional one or two.

Reproducing rulebook pages is not a good solution. Easier is to make changes to Beta Cards. This will be legal?

... and They can do the same mistakes .... and that is not the worst case scenario ... They can make bigger mistakes. All we can do is to express our opinions to bend the Creators will into better M2E. Only part of the model is betta tested - so we have to put our energy into the future of M2E.

Thanks Sounds good for me

That’s true ... To some extend (again I exaggerate by far) I also have a impression that many Gamers express their laud support for M2E because They are willing to stay in "Winning Team". Followers of v 1.5 have already lose the day.

... it seams that You didn't notice ";)" in my post. The rulebook is the first thing I need - and then I will make further decision. It will be legal do make corrections in Beta Cards and used them insted of Decks?

I definitely like this Picture full of Goth Chicks – one detail that make me sad it that … this picture is a new image of my first MalifauX master Victoria the Treasure Hunter and Her crew. Only one detail … It seems that now Vickis is far away from the point when She have come to MalifauX and met Leveticus and Allyce in train compartment. You know - Five stages of grief: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance. I am in stage five about M2E - so I focus on positives. New Vickis crew looks great, new Sonnia looks great, Pandora, Lilith, Nurces and many other arts look great

to some extent probably Yes ... but for sure releasing pdf will make WYRD customers (especially those who possess more than one fraction) extremely happy that they do not need to buy all Decks at once but can do it step by step and used during this transition period printed pdf cards. Happy customers ... what can be more important

Lilith 2.0 by caen As Lilith was always one of my favourite Malifaux Master (fluff, model, playing style) it is a time to build a cornerstone of my new Lilith M2E crew. First I will discuss the upgrades that I have chosen: 1. WICKED MINSTRESS – awesome Transfixing Gaze with Ca 8. This upgrade will work very well with Illusionary Forest (part of my second upgrade – BECKON MALIFAUX) because of additional damage after pushing enemy model into severe terrain. And will work even better with Thirsty Mandrake, a part of third upgrade LIVING BLADE – basically additional free Ml Attack Action against model lured in proximity of Lilith by Transfixing Gaze (or other push). 2. BECKON MALIFAUX - Illusionary Forest will be great for blocking LoS, using Sudden Darkness and already mentioned additional damage. 3. LIVING BLADE – because of Ml 7 and Rg 3 – and other things already mentioned. To additionally boost the damage output against models pushed by Transfixing Gaze I will pick Cherub as a totem – He is fast, has excellent ability Our Land boosting other models capability to interact and what is more important to me has Rise Up spell – that I will use to create 3 inch aura of severe and hazardous terrain around Lilith – so models pushed by Transfixing Gaze will suffer additional damage because of hazardous terrain. To sum up, after successfully casting Transfixing Gaze and pushing enemy model into Illusionary Forest (because of Lilith Master of Malifaux ability We do not care about LoS) within 1 inch of Lilith enemy model will suffer 1/2/3 and 1/2/4 damage flips before even Lilith make a free Ml attack from Thirsty Mandrake. Not bad for me …. And we can feel pretty save because Lilith is sheltered by Illusionary Forest and every model trying to engage her will suffer damage from hazardous terrain. Other models that will be part of my crew are definitely Waldgesist – they are very durable with Armour 2, Perfect Camuflage and 7 wounds, what is more can create even more Severe Terrain (Germinate – 0 action) to screen models and block charge lines. I still do not know if Barbaros is a good choice – but this is not so important because He will be available probably only with new Lilith box – and I am perfectly happy with my metal models, to be honest I prefer metal models in skirmish games (playing multiple fractions of Warmachine and Hordes and still not possessing any non-metal models is a bit extreme – but this is my own choice). Terrors Tots hiding (and dropping scheme markers) behind all that additionally created terrain can be a good choice to increase number of models in my crew. Other models that I want to have in my crew are still in Closed Beta – I hope that Lilu and Lilithu will be viable choices – Vampiric theme must be in my crew - no doubts about it. I also wait for rules of Mysterious and Arcane Effigies. Tuco is also one my favourite character – some shooting power can be helpful to add some diversity to my crew. If I will have to stick to already Beta tested model I will proxy the Barbaros and use such crew for 45 SS: Lilith Upgrades – 5 SS (mentioned above) Lilith Cache (increased from 3 SS to 6 SS) – 3 SS Herub – 3 SS Barbaros – 10 SS 2x Waldgeist – 12 SS 3x TT – 12 SS Total: 8 models I am curious what big change will be between last pdf from Open Beta and rules in M2E rulebook. What do You think about current rules and possibilities for building Lilith crew?