tony28 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hi guys.in need of help with an all commers list for an upcoming game at a local tourney.I have most resser models and this is my first tournament so all help is greatly appreciated.so far I have sea us and 3xbelles.your thoughts.......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huang Da Wei Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 crooked men, so the belles can lure the opponents models into doom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike3838 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) For a single all comers list, I'd drop one of the Belles and add in Grave Spirit and some Night Terrors (or Crooligans if you prefer, but they're less good). Then you want to add a couple of Killy models choosing from: Bête Noir, Dead Rider, Shikome, Convict Gunslinger Gives you a good mix of offence and objective grabbing. Mike Edited January 27, 2012 by Mike3838 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike3838 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Crooked Man plus Belle is a decent combo sometimes, but it's 8ss tied up in a combo that 50% of the time will only cause 3Dg (and less if the enemy is armoured or a spirit). Yes it's nice on the occasion you flip a joker, or paralyse a key model, but it's a lot of effort and a bit of a gamble. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony28 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Just my luck lol,I don't have grave spirit or crooked men.any as good alternatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Not a fan of Crooked men for the reasons Mike gives. Mabey something like: Ressurectionists Crew - 35 - Scrap Seamus, The Mad-Hatter -- 7 Pool Night Terror [3ss]Night Terror [3ss]Rotten Belles [4ss]Rotten Belles [4ss]Convict Gunslinger [6ss]Punk Zombie [5ss]Punk Zombie [5ss] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony28 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Well I was thinking about Sea us Belle Belle Belle Sybelle Maybe copycat And whatever else, I'm not very experienced in games and selecting minis.I also don't have nite terrors although o wish I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustcrusher Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 What do you have, or have readily available? If you have no Terrors you could use Crooligans (as Mike suggested) or Necropunks. Another option would be to take Strumpet's list and put in one more Belle and Punk Zombie instead of the Terrors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony28 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have all box sets except for mcmorning,i have dead rider.punk zombies.the hanged,jack daw,bete noire,dogs,copycat,zombies,Molly box set,necrotic machine,shikome,nurses.I think that's it I thank you all for your help again guys. Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 The list you were thinking of is what I was running variants of for awhile. The problem is for an all comers list it will often fail. The only source of dmg you have in the list is Seamus, whose dmg potential can be neutralized by locking him in combat. I'd honestly recommend dropping the copycat from your list, as for 2SS he will very rarely pull his weight as he's exceptionally easy to kill, and will rarely hit anything with his gun as his combat is 3 and he needs to be within 8" to even shoot anything. I had a very hard time dropping belles from the list, but at least in my case, the ability to just pull things around and be tankish doesn't work against crews that will see you have no threats and just either swarm you, or kill you outright. The Seamus list I've had some success with lately is this one: Ressurectionists Crew - 35 - Scrap Seamus, The Mad-Hatter -- 4 Pool Grave Spirit [1ss] Molly Squidpiddge [9ss] Necrotic Machine [2ss] Dead Rider [10ss]Punk Zombie [5ss]Rotten Belles [4ss]Desperate Mercenary [2ss] I still don't feel it's right, but it had a good deal of success in a recent Turf war Vs McMorning. Seamus, supported by the Necrotic Machine hung around the back field to prevent McMorning's minions from attempting to complete their objectives, while the rest moved in a group up one side of the board. The Dead Rider heading forward to smack and then drag back models for the Zombie to either Charge or Flurry. Molly grabs the counters as they drop and then summons Sybelle as soon as counters and cards allow. Also using Terrible Secret to debuff the target of the Rider's attack is useful. On Set up try to make certain the belle is within both Molly and Seamus' auras so she can claw the Desperate merc for 1 and still move and keep up with the phalanx of death. The problem is I don't like running without two Belles and Seamus' cache is very low, Seamus really needs as many stones as you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelious1424 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Not a fan of Crooked men for the reasons Mike gives. Mabey something like: Ressurectionists Crew - 35 - Scrap Seamus, The Mad-Hatter -- 7 Pool Night Terror [3ss]Night Terror [3ss]Rotten Belles [4ss]Rotten Belles [4ss]Convict Gunslinger [6ss]Punk Zombie [5ss]Punk Zombie [5ss] I was going to suggest something very much like this. Way to steal my thunder, bro :dead1:. PZ's are amazing 5pt models. I like to keep one close to Seamus, this way if you want to deal with the Hatter, you may have to deal with a Cb7 paired Flurry!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PercyTheLeper Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Once you know how to use the Dead Rider (making sure he's not caught in the open after his drag-alongs), he's a fantastic and versatile utility model. Definitely worth the 10 points. A bit restrictive if you want any other high point models though, and a few times he's been caught out in the open due to sheer stupidity. Bete Noire is also AMAZING, but if you end up facing a construct-heavy crew you are screwed, brotha! I've also recently tried out Molly, and she has some interesting spells to bring to the table. Plus you can bring an extra totem! Convict Gunslingers are always a good choice. If you like punk zombies, then take one or two of them; however, even with luring I've had issues getting them in flurry range, so they usually just end up cutting themselves to do damage. I do like Cornelious' idea of keeping a punk zombie by Seamus for protection, but with a large enough soulstone cache and clever play you don't really need[url=http://www.wyrd-games.net/member.php?3563-Cornelious1424] to worry about protecting the Hatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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