Spirits & McMourning's Dissection

[Nightjar]

I'm new to the game, and I'm trying to make sure I get things right. I've been able to answer most of my rules questions by searching the forums, but I couldn't find an answer to this one:

As I understand it, spirits do not leave counters of any kind. But how do they interact with effects such as McMourning's Dissection spell? Dissection essentially replaces the Corpse Counter dropped by a model with 3 Body Part Counters (which McMourning takes). It seems odd that Spirits would provide Body Part Counters in this case, but since the spirit isn't technically "leaving" a counter, it seems like a loophole in the "no counters" rule for spirits.

The same question applies to McMourning's Wracked with Pain spell.

How is this supposed to work? Do spirits provide Body Parts Counters when killed by Dissection or affected by Wracked with Pain?

Thanks in advance for clearing this up for me.

[lastakodo]

Both those spells just give you body parts as part of the spell, even if the model normally wouldn't drop a corpse counter.

So yes limbs will magically rain from the sky if he lays into spirits, constructs, soulless, nightmares, etc

[marshimartian]

Yay for raining arms and legs!

[Q'iq'el]

Nothing unusual about it. Phantom arms and legs are well known to the medicine, even on this side of the breach.

[Nightjar]

Thanks for the quick answer, guys. I figured that was probably the case, but I wanted to make sure before it came up in one of my games (I'm playing Kirai's Crew and am also working on a McMourning Crew, so you can see how it would be important ).

[taozenrat]

Very awesome. I was wondering if there was a way I could use Kirai in a 2 master brawl.

[Fetid Strumpet]

Certainly, I think Kirai could work well with any of the other Resser masters in a brawl.

With Seamus you have will have great speed from both crews, and the synergy between Seamus' 12" -2 Wp Aura, Lures, Onryo, and the Hanged. Plus alot of Kirai's melee models can attack WP or DEF with their Melee strikes.

With McMourning you can capitalize on the Datsue-Ba & Kirai's summoning. Line up a bunch of Canine Remains, Datsue-Ba Stands in the Center of the and does her big I attack everything in 2" Strike. Cheat to hopefully get Weigh sins off get a bunch of Gaki, Seishin, and Corpse Counters. McMorning then Gets some body parts off his zombie chihuahua and summons alot.

The same tactic can work for Nicodem.

[immorfeus]

Does that still work with the rule of equality thing? Like can the datsu-Bo kill something with weight of sins, summon a spirit off it and still have a corpse token created?

[Fetid Strumpet]

As of the Rules manuals release there is no rule of Equivalency.

[immorfeus]

yeah it's on the top of page 34 in the "Rising powers" book? ok just saw in another post that they took away that rule... so then i guess it does work.

Edited May 29, 2011 by immorfeus