Hinton Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 I got my latest shipment of minis in and as I was looking at them, I decided to paint Alidee first. As I sat looking at her, she just screamed to be painted with directed lighting/OSL instead of the normal "sun as a light source" method. "No," I said to the mini, "I'm not that good yet." "Paint me with OSL!" she screamed back "OSL! OSL!" After much debate I decided to take the plunge and do it. Then, I decided to go ahead and try NMM on this one since it seemed to fit with the OSL theme. (think I'm crazy yet?). I debated whether I should do a WIP post or not, but I figured I probably should since I'm trying so many new things. (gotta be out of my mind) So, here she is, primed and ready to go. I shot her with only one light to get an idea how the light and shadows would fall. I've already decided on which colors I'm going to use for the cloak, clothes, etc. I'll try to keep this updated at regular intervals, but sometimes I get started painting and just keep going. So, if anyone wants to toss in their ideas and opinions (like trying to talk me out of this insane endeavor), please, by all means, jump right in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrEvilmonki Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Well the single light source photo is a great first step. Other than that I would suggest checking out Shawn.R.L's thread on OSL over at CMON for some ideas. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Another thing that helps a bit is to prime the mini a grey color (or black if you prefer) and then once dry, use white spray paint as your 'light source' and give it a quick burst or two. It really helps to 'see' where the light falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duende Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 I got my latest shipment of minis in and as I was looking at them, I decided to paint Alidee first. As I sat looking at her, she just screamed to be painted... My minis do the same thing!! Whoever's loudest gets painted first! Nice to know there's somebody else in the crazy "my minis speak to me" boat! :vb_cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eastern Front Studios Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Vikey thats one good tip ..the backside of the mini would always be darker hitting it from the front with a burst of grey or white would help in the process((possibly both..maybe with a airbrush would be good more controlled?)) ..a osl I wanted to try was some adventurers descending some steps, with say a flickering torch....yes Shawns how to and some of Victorias are really helpful..course Eric j's is a good inspiration also for closer up lighting. Hinton look forward to seeing what you come up with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted November 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 @DrEvilmonki: I thought it would be best to at least have an idea of what I was looking for/at. I'm posting over at CMoN in shawn's thread since he's agreed to help me out and I've read his tutorial on OSL several times now. @supervike: Oh sure; now you tell me. :laugh: It's cool, though. At least I know to do that next time. @Duende: At least I'm not the only one that's crazy. Okay, here's a small update. I always start with the eyes, face and skin areas. Very little of that with this one (pardon the slightly messy painting). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eastern Front Studios Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Hinton will the source of the osl be from the sword or other light source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted November 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Hinton will the source of the osl be from the sword or other light source? It'll be from another light source, specifically from a window to her right side. It's kind of a mini-diorama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eastern Front Studios Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Hinton yeah from the way shes standing that would work well.depending on how close she would be to the window which would make the light larger or smaller..perhaps cobblestones and barrels crates in a alley?sounds like a cool little project ..I am interested in seeing it come together.not only the light on her but the shadows trailing off is always interesting also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted November 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 I've done the back of her cloak. However, it's just not looking right to me. I know what I want to do, but it seems like it just won't come out right. Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi6ers Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 it seems like it just won't come out right. Suggestions? I'd give it a glaze of the midtone and re-highlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Seeing that you did the eyes first this time around and it was something of an issue for your sixth miniature, how do you feel it came along this time? From what I can see, it looks pretty good but I can only make out so much as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted November 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 I'd give it a glaze of the midtone and re-highlight. You're not the only one that's suggested that (although, you are the first). I'll be going back and doing that later today, along with a couple other things and then post more pics. Seeing that you did the eyes first this time around and it was something of an issue for your sixth miniature, how do you feel it came along this time? From what I can see, it looks pretty good but I can only make out so much as well. The eyes seemed to go much better than usual. I wasn't nervous about screwing up since I knew that I didn't have anything else painted. Normally, I have quite a bit (if not all) of the mini done, so it's going through my head: "Don't screw this up!", which, of course, only makes things worse. Unfortunately, the shadows do take away or even cover up some of what I did, which kind of upsets me; I finally got some decent eyes done with what looked like the perfect amount of darklining and everything and I had to cover it up! Aaarrrggghhh!!! Oh well; at least I know what I did this time and should be able to apply it and perhaps even improve upon it with the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritual Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Maybe you can do an occulac next time, then! If you really want to show off the eyes! :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 What the heck is an "occulac"? Progress report: Just putting up a picture of where I'm at right now. Of course, suggestions or comments are always welcome if you have any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi6ers Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 The cloak is looking a lot better, good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritual Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 An occulac (sp?) or beholder is a large eyeball with lots of smaller eyes at the ends of tentacles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritual Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 And yeah, the cloak looks much better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Thanks. Oh, ok; I know what beholder is. Searching for "occulac" didn't return any results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritual Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I may very well have mis-spellt it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi6ers Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Google for Occulak and the heresy version should pop up for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 I may very well have mis-spellt it... No worries. @gi6ers: Yep, that worked. It's a Beholder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritual Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Somewhere in all this confusion the joke I was trying to make got lost... I should have written "beholder" instead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted November 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 No, Ritual; I got the joke. Ocular means eye; occulac (or occulak) must mean many eyes. I just never heard of one before. Trust me, I did laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinton Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Hey all. Just posting another update pic. Getting closer, but still a ways to go yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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