Which master?

[MrBabash]

Hi guys!
Some friends of mine finally opened a shop here, and we are trying to create a Malifaux community.
I'm (re)turning on the game but it's like I'm new, so I'm relearning from 0.
Now, in the next days I should have a postal delivery with Seamus and McMourning core box (plus McM2), but I want to buy the Von Schtook rotten harvest and I really like Molly and Kastore too.
So I'm a bit confused on who I should put all my energy to learn and master, before moving to the second one. I could use Seamus or Mcm1 to proxy Von S, or use themselves to learn and then decide. My top 3, right now, would be VonS, Molly and Kastore. I would choose between the best to learn the game with, and the most solid as Kw. 
Tell me everything you want about all of them! If they are good to learn the game with, if they are solid, how they play etc, so I can choose and stick with one. 
Thank you in advance!

[Regelridderen]

Ressurs are great.

The end.

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Personally, I often end up soloing Seamus, when I play ressurs. Jumping carelessly around, blasting a big gun, seems to suit my playstyle. My second choice is usually Daw, as I don't mind choking the fun out of my opponent.

That said, you should focus on one keyword, as you learn the game. Try and get to know the ins and outs and the uses for all its models, before you move on to the next. There's no point in trying to guess at 'the one true keyword', you'll only become a good malifaux player from knowing your models, how they apply to schemes and strats, and then understanding the opponent. That's a real mouthful, so it's better to simplify things at first – playing one keyword for the first 5-20 games. I'd suggest going with the one that makes you want to paint the most.

Another good point is that focusing on that one keyword, will allow you the time to paint the rest. Nothing worse in Malifaux than grey models, and collecting a horde of grey usually ensures that it stays that way – some people are just more hoarder than hobbyist.

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When it comes to POWAAA!, you'll see that every ressur master has her/his fan base. McMourning has been the least favoured, at least before his title. The factions strength is resilience and mobility, two traits that win you games. This doesn't mean that McMourning is a bad choice to learn the game with - and the current environment caters more to his strengths than previous.

 

[MrBabash]

1 hour ago, Regelridderen said:

Ressurs are great.

The end.

-

Personally, I often end up soloing Seamus, when I play ressurs. Jumping carelessly around, blasting a big gun, seems to suit my playstyle. My second choice is usually Daw, as I don't mind choking the fun out of my opponent.

That said, you should focus on one keyword, as you learn the game. Try and get to know the ins and outs and the uses for all its models, before you move on to the next. There's no point in trying to guess at 'the one true keyword', you'll only become a good malifaux player from knowing your models, how they apply to schemes and strats, and then understanding the opponent. That's a real mouthful, so it's better to simplify things at first – playing one keyword for the first 5-20 games. I'd suggest going with the one that makes you want to paint the most.

Another good point is that focusing on that one keyword, will allow you the time to paint the rest. Nothing worse in Malifaux than grey models, and collecting a horde of grey usually ensures that it stays that way – some people are just more hoarder than hobbyist.

-

When it comes to POWAAA!, you'll see that every ressur master has her/his fan base. McMourning has been the least favoured, at least before his title. The factions strength is resilience and mobility, two traits that win you games. This doesn't mean that McMourning is a bad choice to learn the game with - and the current environment caters more to his strengths than previous.

 

Thank you so much! The fact is, I would REALLY paint all the resserz models (except for Reva), they are all sooo sick! But I guess I should take my time and go step by step. As I said, 1 hour ago I had the postal delivery and now I got Seamus and McM1/2. They both look so nice. I'll learn with McM1 and then I'll decide my next step. I must stay away from the "tier list" discussion because it doesnt mean nothing right now, since we are all new! I must keep this in mind 😂

[Regelridderen]

4 hours ago, MrBabash said:

Thank you so much! The fact is, I would REALLY paint all the resserz models

and you shouldn’t hold yourself back on the painting side. Personally I like ordering a keyword at a time, so I haven’t got too much clutter on the paint station. Also to really consider the theme of the keyword, basing wise, and if I should play with some new technique etc. 

Playwise, the game is just so complicated and with so many variables that limiting your choices at first, helps secure a good foundation. 

McMurder is a great place to start. Fairly straightforward, and as you move on, you’ll find the game just getting easier.  

[MrBabash]

6 hours ago, Regelridderen said:

and you shouldn’t hold yourself back on the painting side. Personally I like ordering a keyword at a time, so I haven’t got too much clutter on the paint station. Also to really consider the theme of the keyword, basing wise, and if I should play with some new technique etc. 

Playwise, the game is just so complicated and with so many variables that limiting your choices at first, helps secure a good foundation. 

McMurder is a great place to start. Fairly straightforward, and as you move on, you’ll find the game just getting easier.  

Yup I totally agree! Indeed I think I'll learn with McM1 and then I'll decide between Molly and Von Schtook as second master. And right now I already have McMourning core box and Seamus Core box to paint, so I'm good for a while! Do you think 3 masters to learn are enough for all the pools?

[Regelridderen]

9 hours ago, MrBabash said:

Do you think 3 masters to learn are enough for all the pools?

3 masters is quite common for a 'tournament bag'. It's rarely practical to transport a full faction anywhere, and having a full toolbox isn't useful, if you don't know how to use half the tools.

When I tourneyed ressurs last year, I lugged Seamus, Yan Lo and Daw around, but in 90% of my games, I just ran with Seamus, because of familiarity and brain fatigue. Experience with a given keyword is far more efficient than having optimum rules. 

[MrBabash]

32 minutes ago, Regelridderen said:

3 masters is quite common for a 'tournament bag'. It's rarely practical to transport a full faction anywhere, and having a full toolbox isn't useful, if you don't know how to use half the tools.

When I tourneyed ressurs last year, I lugged Seamus, Yan Lo and Daw around, but in 90% of my games, I just ran with Seamus, because of familiarity and brain fatigue. Experience with a given keyword is far more efficient than having optimum rules. 

That's a good point! Indeed I'll probably try to collect all the faction, but I would stick to play 3 masters. I also noticed that McM and Molly share the Rogue Necromancy, so thats a hint on the second master having McM right now lol

[Maniacal_cackle]

On 4/25/2024 at 9:09 PM, MrBabash said:

That's a good point! Indeed I'll probably try to collect all the faction, but I would stick to play 3 masters. I also noticed that McM and Molly share the Rogue Necromancy, so thats a hint on the second master having McM right now lol

One heads up is if you are playing the title, McMourning Insanitary, you will notice a very large power gap for Rogue Necromancy between the crews. It is fine in Molly, but you may feel a bit sad about how much stronger it is with McMourning.

[MrBabash]

On 5/3/2024 at 2:10 AM, Maniacal_cackle said:

One heads up is if you are playing the title, McMourning Insanitary, you will notice a very large power gap for Rogue Necromancy between the crews. It is fine in Molly, but you may feel a bit sad about how much stronger it is with McMourning.

Thank you so much! Actually the owners of the shop where we are going to start the community are gifting me the rotten harvest of Von Schtook (I painted one of their walls and this is part of the pay lol), so Im starting with him and then Molly will be my second one probably! McM will wait, even because I dont like that much the first version and McM2 is too complex for a totally new player like me. So, Im going to focus on Von Schtook for now!