After Resolving Abilities timing.

[CustardBomb]

Hi all! 

So a debate came up in a game today weather the 'After Resolving' timing on an ability follows the same timing as the 'After Resolving' affect on a trigger. 

The rule book specifies on pg 60 that. 
 

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Some abilities, however, are active and create certain effects in reaction to other events on the table. When an active Ability goes into effect, resolve the effect step by step in the order listed on the ability.

on pg 70 its specifies under ability timing
 

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Most Abilities are passive and always in effect, but some occur as a result of another game effect. In these cases, the Ability will use the word "After" These Abilities happen after the effect in question is resolved. 

under Trigger no Ability timing on pg 48 it reads
 

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After Resolving: These Triggers happen after the Action is complete, regardless of success or failure, but only if the model that declared the Trigger is still in play.

So the point of contention is weather Abilities must obey the same timing as triggers. Therefore if a model with an "After Resolving an Opposed Duel" trigger dies during the effects step of the duel does its ability either. 

A. Not Function, Abilities with timing obey the same timing as triggers therefore the model is dead. 
B. Function, Abilities are not triggers and therefore an After Resolving ability still functions even if the model is killed. 
C. After resolving an opposed duel is a step which happens before the damage is applied, and therefore the ability will function sequentially before the model suffers damage and is killed. 

If option A is the case a rules reference which specifies in particular to use the same timing as triggers would be appreciated. 

Thanks all!

[solkan]

2 hours ago, CustardBomb said:

Hi all! 

So a debate came up in a game today weather the 'After Resolving' timing on an ability follows the same timing as the 'After Resolving' affect on a trigger. 

The rule book specifies on pg 60 that. 
 

on pg 70 its specifies under ability timing
 

under Trigger no Ability timing on pg 48 it reads
 

So the point of contention is weather Abilities must obey the same timing as triggers. Therefore if a model with an "After Resolving an Opposed Duel" trigger dies during the effects step of the duel does its ability either. 

A. Not Function, Abilities with timing obey the same timing as triggers therefore the model is dead. 
B. Function, Abilities are not triggers and therefore an After Resolving ability still functions even if the model is killed. 
C. After resolving an opposed duel is a step which happens before the damage is applied, and therefore the ability will function sequentially before the model suffers damage and is killed. 

If option A is the case a rules reference which specifies in particular to use the same timing as triggers would be appreciated. 

Thanks all!

When you start talking about the timing of abilities and triggers, those five paragraphs in the Trigger Timing section define what the words "Immediately", "When resolving", "After killing", "After resolving" and "After succeeding" mean for triggers.  Those five paragraphs do NOT define what those words mean when they appear in the body of actions, or in abilities.

"After resolving an opposed duel" (which appears in abilities like Studied Opponent) is going to happen right after the "Perform Duels" step of the action, before you start resolving the effects.