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Cheating at non-atack action damage


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Hello!
Got a bit curios can be damage cheated when it's not a part of attack action.

Examples:
Bishop def trigger: After an Ml attack fails agains this model, this model deals damage 1/2/4 to the Attacker.

Seamus "Do you know who I am" upgrade: Once per turn when enemy model within 6" passes a Horror duel, this model may deal 2/3/4 damage to it.

And will hard to wound affect on theese flips?

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