shahryar Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Would it be wrong to have moon shinobi in a zoraida crew all just dogpile a voodoo doll? lol I know it probably wouldnt work but the image is funny. Sadly I dont own zoraida yet so I guess this is sortof a rules question as well, Does the voodoo doll only transfer certain conditions or does it literally transfer anything labeled condition? Planning for her to be the next gremlin master to get and trying to sort of plan early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinn Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Voodoo Doll transfers every Condition it gains and all the damage it suffers (up to its current remaining Wounds) as long as it is linked to an enemy model. I assume you are talking about Tiny Green Fists of Fury Attack Action and its Take a Sip Trigger. Voodoo Doll has only 6 Wd Tiny Green Fists of Fury damage spread is 2/3/4 the Action doesn't have built-in This means that you have maximum of 3 attacks before you have to summon Voodoo Doll again and you are not allways going to inflict Poison +2. The main trick with the Posion (and Burning) Condition is that at the end of the Turn target with the Sewn Fate Condition suffers damage from the Posion Condition that was copied to it and then the damage Voodoo Doll suffers from the original Poison gets copied as well. Just imagine an ideal scenario where your Voodoo Doll has 6 Wounds and the Burning +5 Condition (which isn't a problem for Iggy). At the end of the Turn its target suffers 10 damage and the Voodoo Doll is alive, ready to be healed by Zoraida's Mend (Tarot Reading Upgrade). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahryar Posted December 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 True, trying to find goods gremlin alternatives since i plan to stay mostly gremlin. I know merris and sammy are good for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uruk Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I'm just a noob but what about Fingers? Reckless gives 3 Try some! for a +9 poison total per turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Moon Shinobi are good in a Zoraida crew though - they aren't quite as card reliant which lets you be a bit more relaxed about spending cards for Obey etc. Also if you take a Nurse which is always a great idea, you can use Downers on a Moon Shinobi to give them Armour +2 and to all duels, which becomes a to all duels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uruk Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Can you take Nurses with Mama 'Z? O.o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinn Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 58 minutes ago, shahryar said: I know merris and sammy are good for this. Merris sadly is not Her Flamming Bottle unfortunately reads: Target enemy model gains the Burning +3 Condition. Trixiebelle on the other hand...(0) "Buy You a Drink?" (Ca 6 / TN: 13 / Rst: Wp / Rg: 6): Target a model. The target gains Poison +1 a number of times equal to the difference between its final duel total and this model's final duel total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinn Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 1 minute ago, Uruk said: Can you take Nurses with Mama 'Z? O.o Yes, you can. Zoraida has Enthrall Ability that reads: This model’s Crew may hire any Living model with a Wp 4 or less as if they had the Mercenary characteristic. Nurse is a Living model with Wp 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uruk Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Didn't know that...thx mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinn Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 15 minutes ago, Uruk said: Didn't know that...thx mate You are welcome If you would be interested, here is the list of models Zoraida can hire out of faction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uruk Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 This is huge...honestly I've only always considered her in a swampfiends list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 She works really well without swampfiends. Gremlins have a lot of really nice Obey targets (Mancha Roja, Francois, Burt, all the regular heavy hitters, as well as Rami for two Focused shots per turn) as well as some really nasty conditions to put onto the voodoo doll (Sammy is the main one, but slop haulers can reduce Df, piglets can hand out slow and Mancha Roja can Mancha Roja at them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uruk Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Heard that she can run pig lists quite competently, even if I can't get the point since we have Ulix... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinn Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 37 minutes ago, Uruk said: Heard that she can run pig lists quite competently, even if I can't get the point since we have Ulix... Zoraida can make Piglets and War Pigs (and Rooster Riders as well) charge via Obey due to their Pigcharge Ability that allows them to perform the (2) Charge Action as a (1) Action. All that it requires is a 7 of any suit. Oh, how do I envy Gremlins their pigs and Sammy LaCroix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uruk Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Ok ok gotcha, added mama 'z to "to buy" list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinn Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Fingers (1) "Try Some!" (Ml 7 / Rst: Wp / Rg: 1): Target gains Poison +3. A Round on the House: After succeeding, all enemy models within 4 must pass a TN 12 Wp duel or gain the Poison +2 Condition. Lenny (1) Whack'n Stick (Ml 6 / Rst: Df / Rg: 2): Target suffers 3/4/5 damage. Hugs and Squeezes: After succeeding, the target gains the following Condition until the end of Turn: “Embraced: This model may not declare Walk Actions while engaged.” (1) Toss: Target a Ht 1 model within 1”. Push the target up to 10” in any direction. If the target ends in base contact with impassable terrain or one or more models, the pushed model and each model in base contact with the pushed model, must succeed on a TN 13 Df duel or suffer 2 damage. The target gains the following Condition until the end of the Turn: “Insignificant: This model may not take Interact Actions.” Pigapult (1) Launch'n: Target friendly Ht 1 model within 2" is placed anywhere within 24". The target gains the Paralyzed Condition. Slop Hauler (1) Slop Bucket (Ml 5 / Rst: Df / Rg: 1): Target suffers 2/3/3 damage and gains the following Condition until the end of the Turn: "Appetizing: This model's Df is reduced to 4, ignore all bonuses to this model's Df." Trixiebelle (1) Gremlin "Lure" (Ca 6 / TN: 12 / Rst: Wp / Rg: 18): Target model is pushed its Cg away from this model. If the target is a Gremlin, instead, it is moved its Cg towards this model and must end the move as close to this model as possible. Never Needed to See That...: After succeeding, the target gains the Slow Condition. (0) "Buy You a Drink?" (Ca 6 / TN: 13 / Rst: Wp / Rg: 6): Target a model. The target gains Poison +1 a number of times equal to the difference between its final duel total and this model's final duel total. Mancha Roja (1) Grapple (Ml 6 / Rst: Df / Rg: 1): Target suffers 2/5/6 damage. Arm Lock: After damaging, the target gains the following Condition until the end of the Turn: "Fracture: This model suffers to Df duels." Pile Driver: After damaging, the target must pass a TN 12 Df duel or gain the Paralyzed Condition. Sammy LaCroix (1) Voodoo Pins (Ml 6 / Rst: Df / Rg: 1): Target suffers 1/2/5 damage. A model damaged by this weapon also receives the Poison +2 Condition. (1) Jynx (Ca 6 / Rst: Wp / Rg: 8): Target suffers 2 damage. Choose one of the following Conditions. The target gains the chosen Condition until the end of the Turn: Twisted Fingers: This model may not declare Triggers.Twisted Legs: This model may not take Walk or Charge Actions.Twisted Mind: Friendly models which Activate within 3 must immediately take a TN 12 Horror Duel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewmaster Posted December 25, 2015 Report Share Posted December 25, 2015 As a person who's got Zoraida in my top three masters, I can fully endorse the Nurse/ 2x Shinobi combo. One of my OTHER favorite combos is hooking the Voodoo Doll to the opponents Beater, then forcing the opponent to hit itself (ish). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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