SurreyLee Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Okay, I played a tourney yesterday and it's been mentioned I may have played something wrong with pandoras fading memory ability. My understanding is that when she wins an opposed duel against an enemy model she can push 4inches in any direction. That is fairly straightforward as lifted straight from the card... So.... A self loathing attack, self harm or incite all cause opposed duels. She makes one of these attack actions which causes an opposed duel and if she wins, she should therefore push.....right? I can't understand why this would only be the case in defence or using her 0 action incite (which is also an attack action). If I'm missing something ridiculous, please let me know. I've checked the errata and nothing seems to be mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurreyLee Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Actually I am. They are Ca actions, not WP actions..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetorDragoon Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Good to see you answered your own question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 You answered it yourself, but yes, it's a fairly common question when you first start playing the game (I know I asked it myself). Basically, just take whatever stat the attacker/active player/defender is using and that's the type of duel they are performing. Model A shoots Model B who gets to Defend, Model A is making an SH action vs Model B's Df stat. Model A casts Obey, Model B uses WP to resist. Model A is making a Ca duel, while model be is making a WP duel Another, more relevant example Pandora tries to Incite a Gremlin. Incite is WP vs WP, so both Pandora & the Gremlin are making WP duels (and if Pandora Wins she gets a free push, if she were also within 6" of the Gremlin, he would lose 1 Life). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetorDragoon Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Asrian answered more nicely than I did, I see But yes. The type a model makes, is what stat the model uses to make the duel. To break it down, a Ml vs Df duel consists of an Ml opposed duel against a Wp opposed duel. So, Pandora's Fading memory would trigger on the following. When she is attacked and resists with her Wp. (For example, a Ca vs Wp duel, means the attacker has an opposed Ca duel and Pandora has an opposed Wp duel.) When she uses Wp to attack a model (Incite), making it an opposed Wp duel for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldManMyke Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Ah that will make me hate her slightly less Still dont know how to beat her though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malal Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 Still dont know how to beat her though *makes note to add Pandora to list of filth* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddot Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 *makes note to add Pandora to list of filth* Pandirty She's not all that filthy on her own... but the natural instinct is to bring a crew that throws out a lot of Wp duels... that's what makes her filthy. Especially if you use a lot of Lure, which not only forces a Wp duel, but if done right, will bring a model into the Bubble o' DOOOOOOM!!! if they werent already there... or does the damage if they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurreyLee Posted March 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 I'd like to go on record to apologise to all for playing it wrongly to date....will rectify and hopefully still hurt people with pandora..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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