Attacking dead models

[Bengt]

This came up in another thread.

 

A couple of models have a trigger on an attack action that says "After damaging, immediately take this Action again against the same target.", or some variation there of. If they are attacking a model with some form of variable defence (e.g. Soulstone prevention) they will have to declare the trigger before they know if the target will survive the initial attack.

 

It was suggested by some that this should be resolved as a normal attack against the dead model. It's clear from the rules that the timing rules allow for the attack. Whether a dead model is a legal target is never addressed. Or whether a dead model can declare defensive triggers or use passive on damage abilities (e.g. Black Blood).

 

Thoughts?

[Adran]

The extra attack is specifically said to happen before the model is removed, so yes it should happen. The target of the attack is still in play at the tiem of the attackso there is no reason why it shouldn't happen, the model being dead has no effect on the duel, the model being attacked gets to declare triggers and use abilities just as normal, just as the attacking model is cabable of generating blasts from attacking the dead model.

 

If you don't want the black blood to splash on you, cheat to miss.

[The Godlyness]

Sadly ratty that is incorrect

•After damaging: These effects happen after step

5 and only if the target suffers 1 or more damage

from the Action. These effects are resolved before

the damaged model is removed if it was killed by

the damage.

Also here is a wonderful thread that allows models killed by Collodi to make a one action.

http://wyrd-games.net/community/topic/99040-actions-causing-actions-when-a-model-is-killed/page-3

So yes the model is reduced to 0 wounds and "killed" But it is still there for any triggers and abilitys to resolve.