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I was gong to say that the bad things happening in Malifaux usually happen to citizens and side characters - those named characters repesented in actual crews usually make it relatively unscathed. Sonnia for example was possessed by Cherufe but recovered and managed to return to her former self. Rasputina, Tara, Shenlong and the Dreamer remain being tied to Tyrants but haven't lost themselves so far (not sure about Rasputina's current status though).

We have lost named and important characters though, either indefinitely (Lilith and Ramos) or permanently (Colodi and Nicodem) but Tyrants were not involved.

I just really doubt that a permantky mutated and damaged Jakob Lynch would still be useful to the Darkness. It was his charm and indeed human resourcefulness that allowed the Darkness to spread its influence in tge first place. And I doubt it's strong enough to try an open power grab.

1 hour ago, Eclipse said:

After this change reverting back to how things were would be invalidate the whole story process. I really was hoping that Lynch would take control of the dark power, forsake his totem and become more powerful on his own - a true Master, not a patsy. Instead we got the reverse, and that is somewhat difficult to digest. Things seem to always go in favor of the Tyrants (and the Hungering Darkness wanted to become one). IMO there is only one direction now, struggle for ultimate control and devour the other; either Lynch reverses his fortune, or HD takes over completely. Ah, of course, story-wise it might take quite a while for us to get there...

I have to diagree here. Granting Jakob the option to hand control over to the Darkness and then regaining it would just be similar to things occasionally happening in other properties. Think of the dynamic between Venom and Eddie Brock.

And the Tyrants basically never win. Plague/Hamelin for example is the stereotypical mustache-twirling villain whose plans are constantly thwarted. Similar things can be said about December or Cherufe. The Dragon seemingly has even (at least temporarily) lost control over Shenlong.

Now, talking about lore (because I basically have no idea about playing the game): Do you guys think that this is Jakob's fate now? Has he completely succumbed and will stay like this, or did he temporarily give the Darkness full controll to save themselves from a dire situation? He was supposed to be immune to the brilliance, which is why he became the Darkness' host in the first place, so I could see him regain control and the mutations reverting again in time. 

From the artwork I would have never guessed that this is Youko, so they definitely got the 'Unseen' part covered. 

It's weird that a model wearing a Katana, dual-wielded daggers and a belt full of throwing knives has just one attack action while her prior version has three. 

Seems like, apart from pass tokens and Distracted, Youko's true gimmick is wearing weapons for show only.

1 hour ago, muraki said:

As burning man tends to be connected to portals of any kinds, the teleport nature of misaki's bury / unbury with shadow markers or the 'personal portal' that the thunders have could be the connection point between them.  I know it's not connected to the lore as much, but from a mechanical stand point there is a similarity between how misaki plays with how the burning man allegiance plays in ToS.

Off topic, but it's part of my reason why I have difficulty getting excited about allegiances other than burning man in ToS, they have all the best toys! (Card manip + teleportation + fire???? who can say no).

I also wonder, while the other masters in Thunders should be able to see signs of madness in her... what would / could they do about it?  It's been a while since I read all the lore, but how would the greater thunders deal with a crazy leader?  Kill em and replace them?  or try and minimize how much damage they do / clean up messes / try and project strength?  Both of which could be difficult if the burning man change is enough that either the status quo is knocked aside (so there's no time to do things bout it), or it helps her win a significant victory.

That's pretty much my point. Misaki had done away with her father's old generals and replaced them with those who stood loyal to her and her coup - the TT masters we have today, plus Youko who joined her a little later. So Misaki had just consolidated near complete power over the faction. There is no one left to challenge her which makes ot all the more baffling that she is the one to switch. They wouldn't want to turn Ten Thunders into the new Burning Man faction, right? 

My only hope is that with alle the Charm Warders, monks, Yan Lo and Asami there is probably no faction better equipped to eventually exorcize the Burning Man's influence from our esteemed Oyabun's pristine body and soul to make her whole once more.

I don't think anyone is actually argueing whether the Burning Man would be able to corrupt any human in Malifaux but a) how it could get to Misaki and b) whether it makes sense from a narrative standpoint. 

Concerning a) I suppose it's perfectly viable to assume that something just happens to her out of the blue, like unknowingly walking past one of its portals or powerful minions on her mornig jog to grab coffee and some cinnamon rolls. But some foreshadowing would have been way more elegant. Maybe a corrupted Torakage could have placed an artifact in her quarters. But that should have happened in a previous book.

But b) is more important, I think. What narrative purpose does Misaki's corruption serve and what does it mean for the rest of the faction? Misaki's lieutenants are mostly extremely powerful and intelligent beings. Maybe the Burning Man's influence could sneak past Mei Feng, but what about Shenlong, who is the vessel for a tyrant himself, Yan Lo, who is millenia old and familiar with all kinds of supernatural beings, or the Hungering Darkness who might not be a Tyrant yet but on its way to become one. Were all of them simply occupied while Misaki grew imcreasingly more erratic and ... fractured?  

6 hours ago, NoisyAssassin said:

Idk, is there anything about her that stands out as Synergy with the Statue? 

Heated Iron and the Statue's Crumbling Apart results in a nice 1 damage pimg pulse. Sadly it's only once per activation. Also Fore-Mei has a lot more use for all the Scrap the Statue will be dropping. The welder causes automatic burning, the Statue intensifies it.

Sure, it's nothing gamebreaking (it's still Mei after all) but I think there are some neat synergies.

I really like the art, though it doesn't really scream 'master' to me. 

And maybe we finally have a master that'll go well with the Obsidian Statue.

But Misaki had just regained control by uncovering Mei's plot and defeating her in an honorable duel. And she's closely allied with Youko now who should be able and seems willing to help Misaki maintain a closer hold on the organization.

Granted, McCabe has also started feeling more at home with the Explorers, but that is also something Youko should be able to find out sooner or later.

I don't know, I just don't like the prospect of the Thunder's sole leader being the one corrupted. I don't think something similarly drastic is happening to the other factions.

I am quite interested in seeing the alternate versions for Jakob, Youko and Mei though (as well as Hamelin and Colette). Don't think any of them had been shown already?!

From a lore perspective I hate this. Misaki was always examplary by her iron will. Now she gets corrupted by a force that she has no connection to.

Mei would have made so much more sense.

For Honeypot I think Lords of War and/or Silent Strike should be orange as well.

While there is no direct synergy with the keyword's mechanics, Fuhatsu and the Samurai lend themselves to the slow and turtly playstyle, providing Mr. Lynch with some serious pressure from afar.

Youko Hamasaki,  Celibacy Advocat

So here's Youko. Terrible picture, but I still think I overdid it with shading and highlights and did a terrible job with the face. Hair looks decent, though.

@Caedrus 15 subpar Stones done.

@Harlekin As mentioned above I've decided to try painting Youko next week, provided I still have a 30mm Cobblestone base left for her. So yeah, let's get our acts together, friend. 😃

Sure you didn't hand one in for March? We're in April already...

And sorry for being so fickle, dear friends. I find myself hard to bear sometimes as well. 

@lusciousmccabe Thank you so much for your kind words! 

I noticed that Youko got revamped, which renewed my interest in her and Malifaux. So I will try to get her painted up next week, which should carry me safely into May.. I imagine her in pristine white, as an hommage to Lucy Liu's O-Ren Ishii.. 😃

3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Oh. 

I got the reference, but wasn't prepared for that level of enthusiasm. I thought I missed something. Lol

Nah, you didn't. I just really love that show. And I love Wyrd for naming that trigger the way they did. 😅

23 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I don't get the reference.

It's a mini series on Netflix about a female Chess prodigy played by Anya Taylor-Joy, and it's really, really good. You should give it a shot. 😍

No one has mentioned that Youko has gained a trigger called Queen's Gambit. So I will:

Youko Hamasaki has a trigger called Queen's Gambit. She is now officially Malifaux's coolest most bad ass model. Now, I don't know whether she's into substance abuse, but it doesn't quite matter since she still is now more bad ass than Von Schill. And Nekima. Combined. Without a mustache. 

I love it.

Guys, I don't know, I might just tap out on the Monthly Painting Challenge. The rest of my supposed play group just doesn't give a s***. We all bought out boxes last Summer, and so far I am the only one who has painted models. Half of them haven't even assembled their Core boxes, let alone showed any more interest apart from the initial interest that must have been big enough to spend a few bucks for said core boxes.

This just really kills my motivation to paint Malifaux models, and it certainly doesn't help that I started getting into another miniatures game which I will not mention...

So yeah. Looks bleak.

56 minutes ago, Harlekin said:

Hi there, 
it's me, again.

An Order Initiate for 6 Stones. 

So, I did 33 Stones in March. Not bad for such a slow and lazy as myself. 

Those are some sexy abs! And I love the coral snake color scheme on the tail!

So, Mr. Graves is done. I like the sculpt but I wasn't really motivated to put much effort into him. Still I think he looks okay. I'm just glad I was able to stick to my stones level on March's home stretch.

@Caedrus With the Beckoner from earlier this month the big guy puts me at 13 stones.

I also just find it a shame from a thematic perspective because some of these lower-costed minions really seem to catch the aesthetic of what a keyword is meant to represent. 

Seeing Youko without Kunoichi and Geishas ist just sad and wouldn't really feel like Qi & Gong is supposed to feel. Same holds true for Mei. She's supposed to be the leader and champion of Malifaux's Railworkers, so it feels just wrong if she leaves them (meaning both Rail Workers and Kang) behind in favor of the Professor's discarded toys and a crazy good Horseman straught from an 80s Metal album cover.

Don't know much about Guild, but it seems like Lady Justice is being played without Death Marshals. Some of the most awesome and cool models in the game who are supppsed to be her elite squad are just not elite enough to be her squad (neither are they Elite but you get what I mean).

I'm just glad that Jakob wouldn't work without Honeypot so he basically always brings a thematic Crew. But I'll try to bring Illuminated in every game.

@Vessien Looking forward to your battle report against that insufferable spawn(er) of nightmares. Bring honor to the Thunders! 

And I'm especially looking forward to your painted Qi & Gong.

12 hours ago, Vessien said:

Thank you for the advice on the schemes and tips, I was considering Spread Them Out instead of Breakthrough, but I guess it needs 2 more markers and reaching his deployment zone shouldn't be an issue.

As for the models I've got painted (we penalize with a free ss for the opposing crew for each unpainted model):

- Misaki crewbox

- Fuhatsu

- Archers 

- Terracota warriors 

And not painted (but I could get something done this week), I've got access to pretty much all versatiles, except for Samurais, Lone Swordsman, Yasunori and Lust. To the whole Last Blossom keyword, and to:

- Bill Algren

- Charm warders 

- Sun Quiang 

*I've got great plans for TT this year 😋

I have tried Fuhatsu and each time I've got better results, since I learnt to position and use him better. But my opponent has also learnt to focus him and his low wp. Any tips on adding survivavility to him? Maybe Trained Ninja? I've tried it to great success on Henchman Hardcore, but here there will be more threats ro him.

Let me guess: You have Youko, Geishas and Chiyo as well, but you don't mention them because we don't talk about Mistress Hamasaki around here.. 😢

Charm Warders seem a good example for a reasonably priced tech piece against summoning, considering that they have more utility beyond that. But maybe at 7 you can't really call theam cheap .. but it's not 9-11 either.