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Been thinking of that, Master of Malifaux sets up the trick, the problem is that I can't think of any good offence spells to copy and blast through terrain. Edit: Been thinking about trying to do something with Z, DG and a Nurse.

I like taking an Insidious Madness with Z so I can deal with I2I models more effectively. Overall she wants to have 2 targets for her Obey spell in her crew, something that can mix it up in melee and someone with some range damage output and utility, for the latter I love Tuco, he's also great for getting rid of low cards when I Obey him, an alternative is to get a gunsmith but Tuco has more uses. As for the former, its a a toss-up between Mature Nephilim or Taelor (not the best choice, but hey, its different and I play Lilith mainly so I get sick of Mature Nephs).

The scenarios you've laid out are pointless because you don't know what cards are being drawn. The examples you're making are only useful if you're playing malifaux with your deck of cards facing upwards where you are able to see that the next card is weak or strong. In fact your scenarios are pretty much dependant on you knowing the exact placement of cards in your deck which is not something that is very common in Malifaux, to my knowledge its less than 4 models that can peek at what is about to be drawn.

Von Schill's awesomely manly beard makes him immune to explosions. The Freikorps armour has a few hairs sewn in to pass this manliness on to whoever wears the armour.

Of the few facts known about Woes, the worst is the horrible truth that everyone is a Woe: The Woe of Not Being Von Schill!

Due to work and study commitments I'm not able to schedule a game of Malifaux, but I was wondering if anyone could try this variation on the core setup in a game sometime this month? I want to work out 2 things: a) Is Avatar 100% necessary to bring the lategame beatdown? Is it worth going for broke and paying the extra 10ss for bumping this to a possible 8 Earthquakes a turn? Turbo Lilith Bus - 35ss - 6 pool Lilith Malifaux Cherub [2ss] Arcane Effigy [4ss] Brutal Effigy [4ss] Doppelganger [8ss] Sorrow [3ss] Sorrow [3ss] Teddy [9ss] or another big guy I can see this flopping if the opponent gets a scheme like Slaughter but if you can get a mobility heavy strategy like Turf War this may work.

Nico, not saying his bad, but the others are usually a little bit ahead on him, except for summoning, except for Kirai who is crazy as.

Any Raspi player will primarily take models with Frozen Heart. Expect her overall crew to be slow as her general tactic is to use Frozen Heart minions as Line of Sight proxies for her spells. The Ice Golem is tough to kill, but from what I've seen its too slow for any objective work, however at this size of a scrap it will be annoying to even try and kill. Ice Gamin are annoying, they're not that good, but you can get bogged down trying to kill them in melee and then when they die they shatter and hurt your models. Blessed Of December should be included as she is damn good for 'tina, being very mobile in a crew of literal glaciers. Snowstorm is a big hitter and if he's got one and assuming he know's you're going gremlins, it might be a good, but painfully expensive choice as its pretty hard to kill with ranged attacks. If he takes mercs expect Von Schill for... well its Von Schill, he explains himself really. Expect the Essence of Power totem as the Wendigo isn't as good as it should be. Mostly I can tell you that at 25ss you won't see Kaeris, as running Ice and Fire means having a very split crew to run. The overall crew will be slow but tough and a lot of the ranged offence comes from Raspi casting through her crew while sitting in some bunker out of LoS. That said if he takes Blessed of December expect her to do the legwork, if he takes Snowstorm... well just remember Malifaux is a game being played for fun, offer to swap crews and replay the scenario...

What is interesting is your comparison of book 2 units with the Neverborn. Although excluding the BBS all of them were meant to be compatible with The Dreamer as well as the existing masters versus Kirai having almost nothing shared with other Ressers. All of these models are multi-function models, which I think maybe the nail you're trying to hit here: They all bring strong synergies and can fulfil a few roles at once and are compatible with every Neverborn Master to some extent (BBS and Pandora is the only iffy match up, and thats only if you exclude taking Terror Tots). If Ressers were indeed in need of being rebalanced (I haven't played against them enough to form an expert opinion), it seems the focus should be on bringing more synergies and utility to the existing models. That said I've only really played against Ressers a few times and all I really saw was just different flavours of zombie, but from reading PullMyFinger it seems everyone else gets more interesting choices for covering certain support fields (Tuco, Guild Lawyer, Insidious Madness and Waldgeist etc).

This seems odd to ask but why did you take only one of the Twins?

I suppose the last thing we need to do is name this rogue crew build and add it to the Lilith article on Pull My Finger. Bashamer the floor is yours.

Its better to have something that is mobile that isn't key to this setup. I'm not knocking it, now, at first I was like "no this makes no sense" but now I can see it being useful with some things. Its just that once you propose to shake up how Lilith plays, which you have fulfilled, you should kind of refine the point. What would make this better?

Alright, if this is your core, what would you use for mobility to complete objectives? Specifically to capitalize on the models you're already using.

If I were to run this at say 35ss, I'd take Coppelius or a Mature Nephilim (depending on whether I can get indications if my opponent is going construct heavy or not etc) and have Lilith use her ability to chain activate this Nephilim elite to help finish the job. Whilst the Mature offers great damage, Coppelius can theoretically lockdown the model with paralysed if its too tough to be killed in one turn, his other well known abilities will also help contain it or deter anyone pushing forward to stop the combo.

I think the idea is sound, however its inefficient when you scale this upwards, at 30+ss you're opponent is going to be building crews with more diverse elements. They will have the opportunity to both take what they need to complete their objectives and a few beatsticks to slow you down. Whereas you will be struggling to work out how to keep up with the escalation of diversity and power without compromising this core selection that focuses on a singular combo. It also has the weakness of draining the health of your master with Sorrow's Link, and at 30+ss that becomes a liability.