Zaqir

Ya what is the deal is he not coming out until after Jan? That is kind of blah

Can someone go over the Leveticus slow thing for me kindly?

You have some good ideas but punctuation and spacing would help (and this is from me lol and i do the same thing at times lol)

What was his list? What were you doing? I am going to assume you use the Doll and Zorida to obey his Neph into smashing his guys but what did he do back? with Lilith there was no teleport shinanigens going on?

In what situation are you talking about making a soulstone?

I am pretty sure you check it at the end because otherwise really it isn't much of an advantage at all, and all spells checks for the suits after casting etc which is when that would come into play.

The thing is she can bring a ton of SoulStones and rarely loses that initial WP duel and flies across the board making things fallback,flee etc etc, soft cover doesn't work, hard to wound doesn't work etc etc. Like misdirection would be great with Alyce but that just doesn't work

Why is heavy AOE a problem for SPA's? They have Anomaly to avoid getting shot unless its from stupid things like Pandora

I had a great run with levi but I hit the Pandora wall (with proper errata) I must say I am at a loss. To be fair I did not run my normal crew (I had been doing amazing with Levi,Alyce,Bette and Killjoy) I ditched Bette and ran 3 Spa's (Summoned a 4th early) and tried to get the Deso Engine in play but as I moved the SPA's up my opponent came at me with Pandora and pacified/WP tricked them all to death and even when I got Killjoy on the table my opponent basically made him stab himself until he exploded before he even got a charge off. Alyce was forced to fall back off the table and Levi was the only problem but really all I ended up doing was kill Kade I have never been this dominated before and its a bit unsettling. Does anyone have any tips on how to combat this?

Bette and Killjoy both have things to learn. Bette is mostly when to bring her in (I got lucky in my game yesterday in that i lost an SPA and brought her in but the enemy model still had attacks and almost killed her) Killjoy is just learning to balance his beastyness with his drawbacks, ie don't let him end out of melee and closer to your models cause he can hurt. Never worry about killjoy and losing control of him, i tend to let levi activate before him either to buff him up with blessing or just to cast spells which ensures i have a card to discard and take control of him.

The reason I like this crew is well it can do anything. Killjoy is a beast, Bette aint bad either, everyone cept Alyce is resilient in their own way. There is a summon/activation/control game going throughout (Ie moving things and saccing things or letting things die but gaining models who then activate etc) I can play a discard game if I have to with Bette,Alyce and the Waifs, Levi has his card/control tricks (death lessons, casting spells to draw cards, Alyce does as well and even Bette does)

It partially depends on the scenario and it depends on the opponent. Levi and crew without some of the tricks they have can generally be slow. I rather have things come to me and pick em off at my leisure. Getting killjoy out early is easy either the waif or levi himself if u have a bad hand. Getting a token out (i might get some canine remains to help with this) to make SPA's is great because bette noire is such a great reaction piece and you have to worry about her and killjoy with Levi and alyce backing them up.. In fact: Levi Alyce =8 Bette = 9 Killjoy = 11 Canina Remains = 2 is good for 30 pts as levi doesn't really need soulstones that much.

Last night I ran a 30 ss Levi crew with Alyce,Bette and KJ. Only Alyce and LEvi started on the field, I was playing defensive so after the Waif summons in (it has to use its 1 slow action to walk so it cannot sacrifice) I used Levi and Alyce to scavenge and summon an SPA. The SPA became Bette piece and the Waif next turn was for Killjoy. Worked well.

Does she get fast when she comes into play? Ie she is placed next to a model that is about to die, is she fast when she comes in essentially?

I totally agree, this is meant to be a gang vs gang type game and i don't see myself ever wanting to play more then 40ss at most in my own opinion. Even 2 master games i would not want to play them that huge just to keep things in spirit of the game.

i hate it when other folks play the same guys as me lol.

80ss games? sheesh i still only play 30ss ones :/

Ya i have the same issue, i don't mind having 3 but 1 sits on the sidelines always which is bleh

Ya Canine Remains seem to be missing from the list.

wait wait, will this work on models that are isignificant but are no longer that status because of a rule like nihilism (Hammelin the plagued for instance?)

i am not a super pro but am i missing a rule somewhere? You can sac models for soul stones??!?

Keep casting the spell that does half wounds +1 and people tend to lose soul stones quick

rats are always slow? remind me to check rats more lol. they do have instinctual and have alot of little movement tricks. i still cannot wait for him to come out.

Something else i was going over the other day and overlooked in my write up. Hammelin has the ability to make things insignificant so do a few of his factions. Not only can this screw up plans in schemes and strategies etc but some spells i thought of as meh before might have a few tricks and a half. 1)He has the spell that can draw in ht1 and insig models and if they touch him they take damage (some possibilities there big time, especially if a few things die and you get more rats) 2)He can make something insignificant and then he can bully them all day but he has the spell to force him to be targetted. 3)I love how he can basically ignore - or + flips etc, I know it can stop crap like Zoraida being annoying but can it be used defensively? IE can you use it to keep guys you know will hit hard from getting those +s? (Ie Leveticus discarding his control cards to give himself +s, can Hammelin use his power to nullify that) I had some crazy thoughts in my mind of hammelin moving up with rats and attacking and a rat catcher running in killing all the rats but causing NEW rats to be summoned for (albiet slow) rats that still might get more attacks?

I used it in my demo game and I did rather well with it, they are a quirky crew but the gremlin helping abilities they have really shine, ie they can engage folks and shoot folks and not worry about hitting them etc. They have some good teamwork synergies like the Ortega's but they can really move across the field and swarm things as well.