magicpockets

Amen to that

In a roughly approximate order - 1. Zoriada 2. Pandora 3. Perdita

Alps can be nice with Zoraida if played carefully. For example, try surrounding a model and then using Zoraida to obey the model to move Or you can use Zoraida to tie a model in melee (as she's very hard to kill in melee) whilst the alps run up to join her. Also, re Alps only working with LCB - you should see them with Pandora, it's not pretty at all - 9 wds on activation anyone?

You should never really know your opponents master before you pick yours, they're chosen at the same time. If you do know and choose in this way, it's kind of cheating. Best bet is pick a Master you know really well and can adapt (for me Zoriada) and pick your crew based on the opponents Master and strategy. Also, re Kirai, consider Zoraida - there's nothing more fun than hexing away the "cannot be controlled" talents on her main models and then obeying them

Effect has never been successfully defined, there's millions (nearly) of threads on what an effect is because of the "does xyz stack" question. I'm sure it'll be looked at with the new erratas though. On a side, I'm going to start playing as wodschow suggests as it'll change the dynamic of my game (which has got a little boring with Zoraida/DG factory). But I'm into Pandora at the minute so won't be anytime soon

Summon Voodoo Doll isn't a spell, nor is Hag's Toys. Plus "effect" is a specific game term which covers things like Bite of Winter

Errata says "effects" that reference a model by name cannot be copied - so surely spells etc would be fine.

Hmmm, we've always took it that only applies to the target model (i.e. copying a Zoriada skill if it mentions Zoriada herself) - that would make sense, but not the way you suggested

Activate the doll first and companion Zoriada. That's then one obey with the doll, obey with Zoriada, summon new voodoo doll, obey with new doll, and obey with DG - I count four

Take one with Zoriada and copy Summon Voodoo Doll, that's two wicked dolls per turn. Then if you Raven Zoriada away, copy Hags Toys off a wicked doll and zip the DG back to Zoriada. Also (may have been mentioned) take a DG and 3 sorrows with pandora. Copy emotional trauma and unhealthy relationship, then sorrows in base contact with DG can use her mimic to also copy emotional trauma - 5 wounds for a failed WP test anyone? And don't forget you can copy a beatstick weapon (bad juju, mature nep etc) and also Use Soulstones to deal some heavy damage in combat, or even at range.

Wow, anyone would think we're waiting on the cure for cancer and the answer to perpetual world peace. Guys, it's little tin models.... :spank:

The wait is almost over...... And i'm counting down the minutes.....

Morning all! I'm going to chance my arm and see if anyone's happy to talk me through the main weaknesses in the two Gremlin line-ups? I've never player against either Sommer or Ophelia before and have Jo's tourny this weekend with about a million Gremlin crews listed so would appreciate some pointers if possible. Looking at the threads I'm expecting a couple of things, skeeter spam to reduce my cards, gremlin spam based on sheer weight of numbers (both somer player strategies) and alpha striking gun line from ophelia - is that right? Is there anything else I should be looking out for? Also, is the best approach going straight after the masters in both lists as quickly as possible? I know it's a bit unorthodox to ask, but hopefully someone will let me know what I'm in for!

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Rasputina for the first match huh, I'm quite happy with that...

karn's right, if you're controlling a model with use soulstones you can use your own ss to change/add the total. I'm in a rush at the moment but will find and post the link later

Except Newbie winning :vb_devil:

I'm one of the first to defend Wyrd and the "delays" (search for my posts if you want to be anal about it) but lets not forget this is a commercial transaction here - if I bought a washing machine and it needed this many tweaks, changes and "swap outs" to get it to work right I'd be p***ed, and rightly so. So yes, we need to give them room and time to fix this and put it right - and the bitching isn't helping - but lets not lose sight of the fact the responsibility here lies with Wyrd and they need to step up and put it right asap. We've paid good money so yes Wyrd do "owe us something" - we just need to be sensible about it and give them room to put everything in order.

Count me in for two days, will give you the cash next weekend.

Erm... yours breaks it as it is lol

TWO WEEKS TO GO. CANNOT FOOKIN WAIT! :dancing:

Who would have thought invisible pianos were this heavy?

As a thought, could you use the doppleganger to copy "oopsie" and "use soulstones" to get a really good blast off? then healing flip back to full wounds the next turn?

Doesn't a charge action have to end in combat? Seems a bit cheeky saying you're going to charge a model you're never going to reach just for the extra movement! lol Also, if you summon the voodoo doll six inches away in the path of pere you can get in another sneaky obey in turn one to give you even greater range. Or take a doppleganger and copy shrug off and obey for two extra obey's in the turn via the nurse (who can dose pere and the dg in one turn)