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engineers are great card cyclers and can pick up a good card from top of your deck

what is the rest of your crew?

I do find von schill very tough but I tend to run 1 of alot of things

9 hours ago, Barmution said:

This is what makes Swine Cursed with Inferiority Complex a good counter if you're playing Bayou: You get around Terrifying with Ruthless from the upgrade, Butterfly Jump with Frenzied charge and do irreducible damage if you've got some glowy tokens and/or high tomes to spare.

remind me to kill them if I see them  

I find that 1 librarian plus hannah, steam trunk and engineers is enough healing so have never gone that deep into it. but yeah thats alot of attrition (until your opponents figure on anti-heal tech)

everyone says chompy is easy to deal with, which is true in theory if hes in the middle of your crew.

but early game he tends to be shielded from dreamer, plus he has terrifying 12 (so for most people a 7 to hit) and I know I play him with butterfly jump. on top of all that he has soulstone use, regen 2 and can heal everytime you fail a WP check engaged with him. 

so to take chompy down you have to have a good hand and some really good damage plus concentrate on him alot, preferably after he activates.

you still have the old misprint high river monk card in it.

but otherwise, keep up the good work, thanks  

updated top post with latest links. forgot about here as normally post it in vassal facebook page. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/MalifauxVassalPlayers/

Only time I would consider it is as a henchmen leader upgrade to effigy. And we dont have good henchmen leaders compared to actual masters

Otherwise always want the emissary early.

carver is not worth his cost tbh.
I am taking more versatile stuff but do have a central core. panodora, candy, a sorrow. then fill rest as needed.

my problem with kade is he is so easy to kill for his cost and manipulative just isnt a defense. he dropped from df7 in m2e (where nobody took him) to df5 in m3e with a defense that is no defense when focus carries over

15 minutes ago, Jesy Blue said:

Yeah, 10 points... that's what I said <looks around nervously>.

You can take both, but I honestly am finding it hard to find a place for Lazarus.  His Move is so low it's almost a detriment.

Not when you give him rocket boots. Surprises people. Either do it with trigger for von schill to let him leap straight away it use the trunk to give them so you can free them up for the beaters

official answer is the latest edition of the rules as beta rules are no longer official. does he want to play some of the older beta rules too because they got removed (like drawing cards when using pass tokens)?

misaki and inhuman reflexes lost diving charge and had it replaced with mobile warrior (can still charge in ocmbat but dont ignore terrain and models)

8 minutes ago, Nathillien said:

@Kyle ,@Nathan Caroland  - we need cards for unreleased models as well. Or some bands will be unplayable. Dashel without his totem? No thanks.

We understand you don't want to spoil arts or smth, but since a lot of players made their conversion of unreleased models in beta, they need to play somehow until those models will be released.

Or can we use the beta stat cards for them?

seeing as almost no changes since last beta then probably using beta stats for those couple of models shouldnt be too bad

3 minutes ago, Saduhem said:

I'm seeing a few tweaks here and there (And some amazing name changes on attacks/abilities) and, so far, I think they're all spot on!

Could do with a change list really.

Have spotted one on inhuman reflexes but not any others yet

Using dropbox was a bit daft for something this anticipated wasnt it?

Already broken. Put it on the forums

2 hours ago, gamesnookOwnber said:

OK this is completely ticking me off. We have just talked to our supplier Lion Rampant Imports in Canada. Lion just contacted me, and stated Wyrd has yet to ship from their warehouse any 3.0 Wyrd product. We have our release event on Saturday, and we now know there will be no 3.0 product. Further to this, we just had our henchmen quit as he feels the company has let him down way too many times. If the product has not left Wyrd warehouse how in the world would I get the product for out event, and why would they put that it is out of their control and it has shipped.

Seems distributors and stores in US and UK are getting m3e stock so maybe need to speak to your distributor or even talk to wyrd privately if having issues instead of airing it all publicly. 

Yes we have had issues in the past not down to wyrd as nathan explained before and they have always been good with contact.

Let's not kick off a new edition with negativity already

Dunno what's happening over there but  here in the UK stuff is getting shipped to distributors over here as my usual place has my order (m3e cards) in ready to ship to me Friday.

So I would like to say that Wyrd are obviously doing everything they can to help this release of their core game and I would look at other reasons to why you store isnt getting stock.

So I would like to say thanks to @Nathan Caroland and its not all negative. Really looking forward to m3e

I use Soldier for Hire as i like even when levi is reduced in wounds it costing the enemy 2 actions to try and finish him (and thus also getting unmade, which if close enough can heal him up above HtK).

Basically with this upgrade going into melee you have to attack wp and hope Levi has no tomes or have 3 actions or stun him or Levi is literally unkillable.

as hes always wandering around with less wounds I am happy with this plus hodgepodge healing to keep levi going

2 minutes ago, SerZaka said:

Yep . Torakage and Oiran were a rare pick too (and I don't even talk about the Samurai and Fuhatsu ). I'm happy to see them on the field now xD

I must be a glutton for punishment as I had an oiran in my misaki list every time. also had a nice gunline list with fuhatsu and a samurai. never ran torakage though

I must be the only Levi player who doesnt take servant of the dark powers.

Ook models I like:

Taelor- reach 2, min 3, stat 7 what's not to like. Also pretty mobile.

Nothing beast - similar role to taelor 

Other than these I tend to play fairly within keyword. Mad dog has seen use instead of taelor/nb but once opponents shut down shooting hes not as good, same as alyce really

Also depends on what crew I am using. Parker I like fully in thene, same as von schill. Its only Levi or the viks that I sometimes take ook models

situational for their role I think. 

snipers have the advantage of a melee weapon plus longer range but archers are better shots and can use chi.

5 hours ago, santaclaws01 said:

So what if he can?

So you would also say a model can't take the charge action if they can't attack someone.

Charge says push upto its move in inches. It then may take a action.

So completely different thing.

40 minutes ago, Figgyfigs said:

I'm inclined to agree. The way it's written, you can declare an action, but then if you don't have a target, the action goes off with a failure.

The result is that Archie can discard to heal seemingly at-will, so long as he attacks first, which is something that I feel like shouldn't be happening, but...🤷‍♂️

well on this theory he can attack thin air, but it fails, then he can flurry.

so for that reason I would have to say you cant flurry without a target to attack

I tend to use the specialist minions - scout, engineer, librarian. After thay I add in Lazarus, hannah and arik 

I am really enjoying my neverborn. favourite master is probably dreamer or titania. but pandora is really fun too. I have also played running widow weaver as leader and she opens up new options

well ping damage is ok until he starts healing from vasilisa, coryphee duet and his own filled with stones has a trigger