mattausten86 Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 Does she retain her harmless from normal candy,I ask because unless ive completely missed it,she doesn't have it,but sweets ability says she doesn't lose it??m cheers matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 FearLord Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 She doesn't have Harmless. Abilities with the same name use the same standardised wording however, to make it easier to track abilities, even where this makes some wording redundant for some characters. In this case, regular Candy had Harmless and Sweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mattausten86 Posted December 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 That's what I thought. Cheers Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The Godlyness Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 can candy use soulstones. i think she can since she is an avatar but dont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 egoon Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 can candy use soulstones. I'd say no. She's not a master or a henchman, and unless she's got 'use soulstones' on her card she should not be able to use them. I haven't seen anywhere that Avatar implies use soulstones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 tadaka Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 i think you need to relook at the rules in book 3 for avatars. she can use stones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 egoon Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) So, Twisting Fates, p 42: An Avatar counts as both an Avatar and Master for game effects, Talents, and Spells, unless they specifically state that they affect or cannot affect Avatars. Example: An Avatar has the Use Soulstone Ability just like a Master does. Does that mean that Candy, the Petulant Youth is a Master then? An Avatar still counts as the Master it replaces... She does not replace a master... how can she then be an avatar? I would assume that since she does not replace a Master, she does not gain Use Soulstone. What I'm trying to say here is that Candy's Avatar does not quite follow the rules for Avatars... I do not believe she becomes a Master, and I do not believe she gains Use Soulstone. Edited December 29, 2012 by egoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ratty Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) The second statement there is so things like schemes still work, if you kill Seamus, Avatar of Dread, you will still get the 2VP, even though Seamus, the Mad Hatter, was the model you originally selected to be assassinated. All Avatars, count as Masters and have Use Soulstones. So Candy and Pandora should be considered a dual Master like the Viks or LCB/Dreamer. Edited December 29, 2012 by Ratty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ausplosions Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 So is Sim29 a master with use soul stone?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 egoon Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Thanks, Ratty! That works for me =) So is Sim29 a master with use soul stone?! It's not an Avatar, so I assume no. What happens to schemes like Kill Protegeé if it targets Candy? She is no longer a Minion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ratty Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 So is Sim29 a master with use soul stone?! Does Sim 29 have the Avatar Characteristic.. I can't see it, just says Constuct, Undead, Unique in my book. whereas Candy says Avatar (Candy),Woe ---------- Post added at 01:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 PM ---------- Thanks, Ratty! That works for me =) It's not an Avatar, so I assume no. What happens to schemes like Kill Protegeé if it targets Candy? She is no longer a Minion... I would say it would still work fine on Candy, the Petulant Youth. As Candy was a legal target when Scheme was revealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ausplosions Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Does Sim 29 have the Avatar Characteristic.. I can't see it, just says Constuct, Undead, Unique in my book. whereas Candy says Avatar (Candy),Woe ---------- Post added at 01:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 PM ---------- I would say it would still work fine on Candy, the Petulant Youth. As Candy was a legal target when Scheme was revealed. Ah yes! I really did not read this thread well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The Godlyness Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 sweet. now i can make her even more awesome.....!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The Godlyness Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 i think this means also that if you have contain power killing only one of the 2 would not benefit at all. but in slaughter you would gain 6ss for killing either or. so no a big change but definitive noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Hateful Darkblack Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Wait, Petulant Youth Candy gets Use Soulstone??? AWESOME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Does she retain her harmless from normal candy,I ask because unless ive completely missed it,she doesn't have it,but sweets ability says she doesn't lose it??m
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