Jonas Albrecht Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 So you keep hoffman without someone protecting him? Can't he just get ranged down to nothing? I just leave him behind the Peacekeeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rameses Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) So what am I missing then. If you are leaving The Hoff out of LoS behind of the Peacekeeper; what's the point of doing the protection chain? Just starting a C. Hoffman crew: with these being the minis I have so far. Guild Crew - 50 - Scrap C. Hoffman -- 6 Pool Mobile Toolkit [4ss] Guardian [7ss]Hunter [6ss]Hunter [6ss]Peacekeeper [9ss]Warden [5ss]Warden [5ss]Watcher [3ss]Watcher [3ss]Santana/Santiago [3ss] Should I be considering anything else besides Clockwork Traps? Edited November 8, 2012 by Rameses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Albrecht Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 The point is usually to protect the Peacekeeper and Toolkit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rameses Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 So would I filter the damage to Hoffman then just heal when needed? I know: not very complicated, but just making sure I get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Albrecht Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 So would I filter the damage to Hoffman then just heal when needed? I know: not very complicated, but just making sure I get it right. Exactly. The Peacekeeper is a big target that attracts a lot of ire. Since it's also your way of getting around, you have to protect it. Hoffman and a Toolkit can do a lot to keep it around, but only on their turns, so when someone decides to pound on it with a couple of mature Nephilim, it's good to have that extra layer of wounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbodog Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 So what am I missing then. If you are leaving The Hoff out of LoS behind of the Peacekeeper; what's the point of doing the protection chain? Just starting a C. Hoffman crew: with these being the minis I have so far.Guild Crew - 50 - Scrap C. Hoffman -- 6 Pool Mobile Toolkit [4ss] Guardian [7ss] Hunter [6ss] Hunter [6ss] Peacekeeper [9ss] Warden [5ss] Warden [5ss] Watcher [3ss] Watcher [3ss] Santana/Santiago [3ss] Should I be considering anything else besides Clockwork Traps? Wow. 50 SS Hoffman crew. That's a lot more SS than I usually play with. In fact, I can't even make your crew's math add up to a 50 ss list. Espeically considering that Santana/Santiago is a 7 ss model, not a 3 ss... Anyway, I'd definitely at least consider Hoff's two other BIG construct ride options: The Pale Rider and the Mechanical Rider. The Pale Rider definitely at least. It's so good. Also, you can take two guardians. You should, especially with more "big targets" to protect. I'd drop a Hunter and lose a ss to take a second Guardian instead. A 50 ss list for me might look like: C. Hoffman -- 5 Pool Mobile Toolkit [4ss] Guardian [7ss]Guardian [7 ss]Pale Rider [9ss]Peacekeeper [9ss]Warden [5ss]Warden [5ss]Watcher [3ss] I haven't played with the clockwork traps at all, either. And I'm not a fan of two wardens and a peacekeeper all in my list (not enough cards and too many chances to want to relentless discard). I might consider the following for more activations: C. Hoffman -- 4 Pool Mobile Toolkit [4ss] Guardian [7ss]Guardian [7 ss]Pale Rider [9ss]Peacekeeper [9ss]Warden [5ss]Watcher [3ss]Clockwork Trap [2 ss]Clockwork Trap [2 ss]Clockwork Trap [2 ss] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sholto Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 At 50ss it is well worth considering a Performer/ Mannequin pair. Hoffman gets Armor +3, and another Construct to follow him around automatically (the Mannequin can Link to him). The Performer's debuffing spells are not to be overlooked, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osoi Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 I agree with Sholto about the Performer and Mannequin pairing. Having 2 Wardens and the Peacekeeper isnt too much Relentless in one crew in my opinion. You dont always have to use relentless on all the models, its just another good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Albrecht Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Plus if you're going to have a Performer, it's the perfect chance to take Coppelius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rameses Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 @Sholto sorry I wasn't clear about that post. That's just the mini's I have to draw from for Hoff so far. And not really sure what happened with Santiago's SS cost. I copied striaght from here It's possible when I added the Santana part I fudge (read screwed up) the number though I can't see why. :Confused_Puppet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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