E.T.A. Hoffman Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Hello World, I ran into a question while running my Freikorps. I was using Hans, who is boss by the way, and he's card says that, "Weapon, Custom Sniper Rifle: This model may not make Strikes with this weapon during an activation in which it moves. All Strikes with this weapon must target the same model during an activation." So it's clear that I cannot move and then shoot. But, what about shoot and then move? If Hans pops off a shot and doesn't need to take his second one, can he move? Am I being a rules lawyer here or is the gun suppose to be a move or shoot, but never both kind of weapon? Thanks much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raythus Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 I'd say that the wording shows the intent, as the card says 'an activation in which it moves' rather than 'activation in which it has moved'. The way I read it, if you plan to move Hans at all, you don't shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshimartian Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I'd say that the wording shows the intent, as the card says 'an activation in which it moves' rather than 'activation in which it has moved'. The way I read it, if you plan to move Hans at all, you don't shoot. Part of me wants to agree with this, however there is no restriction on walking, only on making a strike. Case of RAI vs RAW, RAW really has no such limitation, but I can see where the RAI might be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltheos Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Well, here's a simple way to look at "during an activation in which it moves". Did you move? Yes. Then you can't shoot, because you can't both shoot and move in the activation. Did you shoot? Yes. Then you can't move, because you can't both shoot and move in the activation. The order has nothing to do with the rule. He can't do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I was using Hans, who is boss by the way He really is. It makes me sad when people don't realise this. The way I read it, if you plan to move Hans at all, you don't shoot. Either that or do either the moving or shooting during Hamlin's activation when he casts obey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshimartian Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Well, here's a simple way to look at "during an activation in which it moves". Did you move? Yes. Then you can't shoot, because you can't both shoot and move in the activation. Did you shoot? Yes. Then you can't move, because you can't both shoot and move in the activation. The order has nothing to do with the rule. He can't do both. That's how we've always played it, but wording could have been clearer: "Hans may never shoot and move in the same activation" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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