OneInABilliam Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Rusty Alyce has an ability called Burn Out which says "Target friendly Construct Receives Reactivate. Reduce target construct to 1 Wd at the start of the closing phase". Can she cast this on a target with 1 wd already with out killing it? (I think she can but mind as well ask) My thought is to cast that on Ramos so he gets reactivate, then have him Salvage Under Fire then summon another spider, making him able to get out 2 spiders a turn. Then use a toolkit or a soulstone to heal him if he needs to. Its abit of a risk keeping him at low health but rarely he gets in combat or shot at in my games and being able to make 2 more swarms by the start of turn 3 would be nice. So please let me know if any of you see a major flaw in this. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodschow Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 I would be very reluctant to reduce my Master to 1Wd, but yeah it works like you suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneInABilliam Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 yea that was my big worry but I usually have a decent soustone pool that can be used then can always use weld together from the toolkit to heal... but if something gets close enough im still screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Dog Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 It sounds like you should be a leveticus player.... reducing your master to 1wd (and then shooting him in the back of the head to finish him off) is a viable tactic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneInABilliam Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 the person I play against the most is a levi player lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboStele Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Hehe, I actually just did this for the first time last week in a game. The only I way I was going to get my last Scheme was if I could get one more Spider onto the table, and then Swarm together (darn Insignificant on the individual ones), so that I could Interact with the Terrain piece. So, since it was turn 6, and I was sitting on 2-3 Soulstones still, I figured what the heck, and went ahead with it. I figured that the likelihood of Ramos dying the next turn (if a next turn even happened) was pretty much slim to none, especially since my Swarm interacted, and then moved to take out my opponent's last piece. EDIT: I know Alyce doesn't seem to be the MOST popular choice with Ramos from what I've seen, but I'm really liking her so far. The extra 2 control cards are awesome, and using Ramos' 8 :tomes CA in order to get off Alyce's Rust spell is simply amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneInABilliam Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 If the tookit gave Ramos the extra tome, then Rusty Alyce used his casting would she get that tome as well? I dont think she would need it but still.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 With the v2 stat cards, thats the way it works. You nominate Ramos, then use the toolkit to give him the extra tome. Alyce can then choose to use his Ca, and gets to use effects on his Ca as well, so she gets Surge and Ca8 tomes tomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genetic Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 why would she get surge?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karn987 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) With the v2 stat cards, thats the way it works. You nominate Ramos, then use the toolkit to give him the extra tome. Alyce can then choose to use his Ca, and gets to use effects on his Ca as well, so she gets Surge and Ca8 tomes tomes. I'm rather certain she doesn't get TRIGGERS. Surge is a Trigger and not a special effect on his Ca like Dual Focused is for Leveticus. So no, I seriously doubt she can use Surge. I believe that extra line at the end of her Impressionable ability is mainly there to enable the use of Leveticus's Dual Focused because there was a big scuffle over it a while back with RAW focused people arguing against RAI focused people until finally a marshal intervened. Edited January 19, 2011 by karn987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genetic Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 thats what I thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Ah, sorry folks - I thought it said she got effects, but it says abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboStele Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Ah, sorry folks - I thought it said she got effects, but it says abilities. I made the same mistake when I got her. Too bad though. With Burn Out and Willful animation already requiring a , and Rust not needing anything, you'd be able to use Surge on all 3 of those if she did have it. Would make for some crazy card swapping. As it is though, I REALLY like being able to use Ramos' 8 Ca for Rust, as I mentioned earlier. No Constructs (besides maybe the Coryphee) can beat that kind of Df resist, as long as you're sitting on a 11-13 in your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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