Checking timing order

[katadder]

just wanting to check we did things in the right order after a game.

 

It was a december acolyte vs a witchling stalker

 

december acolyte hit in melee, so witchling stalker failed a duel allowing it to close

 

acolyte did damage killing the stalker and triggered into the shadow which says after damaging he gets to push 4"

 

we assumed that after damaging and therefore the triggered push happened before the death of the stalker therefore saving the acolyte from damage, is that correct?

[Dafty]

Short answer he explodes first.

[Bengt]

Long answer he explodes first because his ability say "when". There is a bit on when/after in the FAQ.

[katadder]

fair enough so was wrong then.

 

but his says when he dies, the acolyte says after damaging so depends when you work out if hes dead, after damaging etc

[Dirial]

You do so when applying Dg, during Step 5 of the duel. After damaging triggers take effect after Step 5.

[Bengt]

fair enough so was wrong then.

 

but his says when he dies, the acolyte says after damaging so depends when you work out if hes dead, after damaging etc

 

FAQ:

Q: If a model has an “After Damaging” Trigger which allows it to push/move and it kills a model with

Explosive Demise, can it use its Trigger to push/move away from the model it killed before taking

damage from Explosive Demise?

A: No. Explosive Demise happens when the model is killed, which would be during Step 5 of the duel

process (Determine Success, Core Rulebook pg. 33) and After Damaging Triggers occur after Step 5 (Core

Rulebook pg. 32). (1/1/15)

[Dafty]

To further complete this answer.

Page 32 after damaging explicitly says it happens after step 5.

Page 33 damage (and killing) happen during step 5

Drawn to Pain: After failing an opposed Df duel but before suffering damage, push this model 4” towards the Attacker. Happens before damage is flipped since this trigger explicitly says when to do it.

Explosive Demise 1: All models within 2 suffer 1 damage !when! this model is !killed! (not sacrifced).

This is after it suffers damage and is reduced to 0 wounds. Killed page 46

And finally from the faq

Q: If a model has an “After Damaging” Trigger which allows it to push/move and it kills a model with Explosive Demise, can it use its Trigger to push/move away from the model it killed before taking damage from Explosive Demise?

A: No. Explosive Demise happens when the model is killed, which would be during Step 5 of the duel process (Determine Success, Core Rulebook pg. 33) and After Damaging Triggers occur after Step 5 (Core Rulebook pg. 32). (1/1/15)

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