Zwergenkrieger Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Hi, Reading this thread I'm just wondering wether the damage auras of both Pandora and Sorrows really stack? I thought that equally named abilities don't stack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Everything stacks, aside from conditions without a +x number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxbedlam Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Ok so if a model has Squeel! Do they take all the Misery damage at once or can they take push out of range after a single Misery hit and avoid the rest? What is the specific order of operations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Misery doesn't trigger Squeal. It's an ability, and there is no defense duel against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxbedlam Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Alright, well then suggesting there's a hypothetical (because I can't pull one out of the top of my brain) push away from a failed WP duel. What would happen first? The damage from all the misery auras or the push away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 That's what I meant. The trigger doesn't interact with Misery. Misery would kick in, but as Misery specifies the time of taking damage as "after the current action is resolved", the model would take damage after pushing. Thus the sequence would be: -failed Wp duel -check how many Misery you're in -push -take damage from all the Misery you were in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mxbedlam Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Ok cool. That's what I was asking. So there's no recheck to see if you are still in Misery range? Once its triggered you take all the damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Exactly. Loosing a Wp duel in Misery range means you're in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barghest7 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Haven't played Pandora since M2E became a thing, so take this with a grain of salt. Sorrows are (or at least WERE) useful, but there are a lot of factors to consider. A strong gunline or a crew with good casts will eat them alive without some way to mitigate the incoming damage. Creepy fog could get you some mileage. Beckoner lures could let you get some early game use out of them by bringing the enemy in piecemeal and tearing them apart with stacked auras, a la Seamus and his belle lure chain. Combine the two for a sturdy front line that lets Pandora and sorrows eat key pieces early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malsqueek Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Beckoner lures could let you get some early game use out of them by bringing the enemy in piecemeal and tearing them apart with stacked auras, a la Seamus and his belle lure chain. Combine the two for a sturdy front line that lets Pandora and sorrows eat key pieces early. I've got a friend that ran Beckoner, Lilitu, Doppenganger and a couple sorrows, and used the 5-6 lures a turn to pull things through a conga-line of hell into Pandora's Fears Given Form. It was like most Seamus crews do, but WAY nastier. Only worked because the opponent really didn't anticipate it until they lost their henchman and enforcer second turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddot Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Given Pandora's push shenanigans, she enjoys a mobile force to keep up with her. Misery Loves Company is a nice place shenanigan and doesn't require a monster card to pull off. Also, if Frame For Murder is available, well, there you go. Your opponent will probably want to kill it anyway, may as well get the easy VPs... and hope to get some extra damage output before its demise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwergenkrieger Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Did anyone think about BadJuju with some sorrows? I may test it in my next games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositronMike Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Bad Juju with sorrows works well. An added bonus is that with an upgrade you can deploy swap fiends from the shadows up the board (Waldegeists are great for this) which can act as stepping stones for the sorrows to get to the centre of the board on the first turn. Last game I had ended up with my two sorrows being the best models for me after pandora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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