Jakob Lynch's "Ace in the Hole" ability, FAQ Confusion

[Fancy_Hat]

So our playgroup has been getting a bit confused by the FAQ for Jakob Lynch's Ace in the Hole ability. The FAQ clears up that you can place Aces that get into his discard into your hand, regardless if they were cheated, flipped, or conjured. This has confused the timing of it for some of the local players. Does the "during another friendly model's Activation" portion of the original ability still apply? (The term another is clear, Jakob Lynch doesn't get to Mullligan his Aces and then put them back into his hand, the question is whether a friendly model making a flip outside of its Activation, such as a Df duel, can place an Ace flipped in such a duel into its hand.) Thank you very much.

 

For Reference:

(Jakob Lynch)

 

Ace in the Hole: When an Ace from this Crew's deck would be placed in the discard pile during another friendly model's Activation, this model may place it in its hand instead after the Action resolves.

 

(FAQ May 01, 2014)

 

Q: With Jakob Lynch’s Ace in the Hole Ability, can he only place aces which were flipped directly off the top of the deck into his hand? Or can he place aces into his hand which had been cheated/discarded as well?
A: He can place any aces into his hand which ended up in the discard pile, regardless of whether they were cheated, discarded, flipped, etc. The language “When an ace from this Crew’s deck...” is simply meant to clarify that Jakob cannot place aces from his opponent’s deck into his hand.

 

[Hateful Darkblack]

Most Df duels, no. (But, say, a Df the friendly model makes for a Disengaging Strike, sure.)

 

It's only during a friendly model's Activation.

 

Who's the acting model? Like, whose AP is being spent?

• Jakob: Can't pull aces out.
• Any other friendly model: Yep, you can recover your aces if they go into the discard pile for any reason.
• An enemy mode: Can't pull aces out.
• Nobody (like it's Initiative or end of round stuff): Can't pull aces out.

[The Godlyness]

The clear wording on it is activation. A model under an obey or heed my will and what not would not get the aces. But a model being alphed or pulled from the void by Tara would since it is that models activation. (Its still counted as friendly.)

If a model is attacking you once again no it's not your models activation.

[Fancy_Hat]

Ok, that's what we figured, the FAQ just seemed to make it seem like Ace in the Hole was supposed to be an "all the aces all the time, except for Jakob" party. Thanks for the responses!

[The Godlyness]

It's really good to discard an ace for defensive stance. (Not on him ofc) And just pick it back up. Ten thunders brothers love the ability.

[Mike3838]

A tip on interpreting the FAQ:

 

The FAQ answer is only there to clarify the "from this Crew's deck" part of the ability wording. The fact that it doesn't mention "friendly model's activation" in the FAQ doesn't subtract the fact that this wording is in the text of the ability itself, so unless the FAQ specifically said otherwise, it still stands.