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Thank you!

I would be happy if you would post the lists played in the description.

Yes i played 2 in every list with old Lucius as well. I tried cavatica (and was not that much impressed) and Doppelgänger (which I use regularly and which is a good Model to do stuff away from the midst of the battle) and was quite satisfied with Lucius, Scribe, Agent and Doppelgängerin. Tbh i think the free action is way more important than the jump. And the melee attack as well. 
yes jumping seems to be „whoooop“ but I used it 1-2x only each Battle. It sure feels a bit wasted to keep them on flanks or in the back but using them at the best Moment to score is epic. 

Soooo After 4-5 Games with both Lucius Crews I am happy with the Changelings. They now have a true purpose even though the carddraw is reduced. 

mhhhh that's not what I wanted to hear... grump

but thank you

Do I get it correctly that if you force your opponent to take the interact action he/she may chose to remove all scheme markers in basecontact even though there are none?

Dear Wyrdos and Vagrants,

I have played the first scenario thrice (to get others to form a campaign) and ws wondering:

1. Is there more background story in the other chapters? Haints background or character background? Like when a Haints breakes you get to know more of his former life or a flashback of your characters life?

2. will there be something like the breachside broadcast for Vagrantsong, telling us more stories?

3. Does anyone have good ideas for soundtracks/music adding more atmosphere while playing (spotify playlist, melodice, youtube w.s.e....)?

next to these questions I want to point out, I realy love the atmosphere of the game. I just wish there would be more in depth story to this story-driven-boss-battler. more RPG flair ore something like that...

If there is not is wyrd planing to add that?

or are there people interested in creating something like that ourselfes?

9 hours ago, diki said:

With Luci2 throwing out scheme markers I would consider Research mission with corpse and strat markers - might be a bit of gamble though

As the pool is kind of difficult for Lucius 2, I would rather consider Widow Weaver (and dolls) if you chose to do Research Mission (and summoning). But taking WW always tells your opponent „hey, look at me… I am trying to get research mission…“ 

1. I would be cautious to go forward into melee. You could also play more denial and ranged (more like a scalpel) 
2. new changelings, lawyers and alan reid offer some good WP duels. Alan (conversation) and scribe (betrayal) could be a Good combo to welcome Enemy Models with low WP 

3. with Doppelgängerin and Lucius as well as lawyers you can score catch and release by luring an enemy henchman to your minions and not expose it by running forward. 
4. new changelings are fast and can do a flanking Job. Esp against low WP  

5. hina, serena or rider would probably be solid versatile options. 
 

well i guess i would look towards Vendetta and catch and go that way building a crew. 

41 minutes ago, Regelridderen said:

I wasn’t that impressed with the card manipulation. Mostly seemed like a lot of hassle for little gain - and the Lawyers came with some great Tools for the job 😏

But I’m a simple guy, my Lucy crews mostly relied on bossing two matures and Candy around 😉 I haven’t tried out Lucy2, but with the changes to changelings and the new starter pack the keyword seems more interesting to me.

Ah ok. That simply is not my way of playing Lucius 1. I did that at the beginning but now I play without ook. That may be the reason why i feel worried about this change. 
 

and I totaly see the use of new changelings in Lucius 2. I think they are way better than the old ones. My worries and my disapointment are directed towards Lucius 1 (which is my favourite Master of all)

but maybe I should stop trying to make a weak keyword work by force. 

11 hours ago, Regelridderen said:

You already have Lawyers to shift actions around - which was ultimately what Changelings did. The new changelings will have a more unique and active function in the crew. 

And now they’re cute and innocent looking and too much of an action sink to get rid of. 

Oh but the lawyers don’t draw cards most of the time. And now theres no shifting AP around the crew to draw cards anymore 😭. I will surely be missing just like you a lot in future games. 
i really do hope the „active“ function will somehow make up for that cause tbh Lucius wasnt rocking turnaments all over the world afaik and I still don’t know what to do with cavatica and Hans which get more important since changelings can only hop 12“ to mimic and not elite. 

On 2/10/2022 at 1:43 PM, Regelridderen said:

As long as Dreamer is in the crew your deck thinning options are gone - but try playing without the Vivid Nightmares ability, and you'll quickly see why change was needed. It's just a shame that most of the crew now have a fairly ineffectual bonus action – unless you bring stitched.

Well yes the nerfed Dreamer is way weaker. That can’t be denied. I still think he is playable and not „nerfed to death“. Despite the fact that nightmare still is a strong keyword and the Dreamer still is a summoner I like to reframe my pov. Like: If I bring LD and Dreamer 1… what I want to do is to get as many weak cards out each Turn and have them in my discard pile next turn. Therefor the deck does get more consistancy even though it is not as strong as pre nerf. 
 

but tbh dreamer insomniac ist much more fun to play imho 

Another guy from germany just paid:

Sven 'Siegfried' Weiß 

😀

basicly WW is a Henchwoman and can use SS to get the needed mask to summon. Beyond that WW is faster and more synergetic due to her web markers. vasilisa is way tougher, has a good heal for constructs (of wich Z has little next to vasilisa herself) and can make a minion take an action (which can be a free action as well)... so it depends on your list. but with emi, mate and sillurids far off the board, you hardly get milleage from that i think

@Morgan Vening Tbh thats rarely an issue for me. If the rattler gets an Upgrade at all i very rarely missed an Option to discard it.

BUT since its a chimera Model I also think it deserved adaptive Evolution.

I wonder what will Happen to the rattler since with the Release of Alpha and the Eagles Marcus will get 2 faster, cheaper and more flexibel Models. Ok Rattlers still can drop 2 schememarkers a turn but so can cerberi… i Wonder if i will Play RR at all then. 

On 1/19/2022 at 11:50 PM, ShinChan said:

• Iggy: I don't know how/what, but he brings almost nothing to Pandora and he's more of an Arcanist take.
• Razorspine Rattler: They need some love. Either slightly increase their durability, their damage output or give them some minor utility, but right now they're in a spot where the only thing that they're kind of good at is moving.

Thought about these two:

i think Iggy should be changed in combination with carver. They do combo with each other in theory but don’t perform well enough for their cost imho. Some change to make both get a pandora feeling. To me they miss that. 
 

the rattler is all right as it is but gets outshined by cerberus in Marcus and its the old Story of leap being too strong. I would love to see rattler drop to 6ss each. For 7 I allways use Cerberus instead. 

10 hours ago, ShinChan said:

• BBS: +1 Wd +1 Cost or move the Blood Sacrifice trigger to the tactical action "Black Blood Pustule", so it now has a TN to drop the corpse markers and it limits a little bit more the focus bomb.
• Candy: Corrupted Inocence reduced to 3" aura.

I agree that these two are mostly seen ook. But are they too strong  in general or just too easy to abuse outside their keywords? 🤷🏻‍♀️ Maybe it helps to increase the cost of ook models by +2 instead of +1…???

I played my First 3 games with Lucius dishonorable and must say I love alan reid. His one more question and the coordinated attack is a very good way to make Lucius and 46 attack a lot. And with 2 possibe damage dealers  the Crew becomes more synergic in its keyword.

I guess it may be possible that cavaticas „called out“ may be nerfed to: 

take a non ⚡️ Action. Or to non Master only. Havent tried to exploit it but this Action can do A Bit of nasty stuff:

-allowing Lucius 1 to use hidden sniper

- klaus can use his ⚡️Action again 

- Lure the target with Doppelgänger or Lucius 2 into Engagement and kill it next activation. In case of Lucius 2 „down the wrong path“ it is quite possible That Lucius moves the Target into cavaticas Engagement Range so je can Hit it and draw a Card as well  

- use the melee of Lucius or agent 46 

i played cavatica yesterday for the First time and i like him 

16 hours ago, Regelridderen said:

Thanks guys, I was looking more for abilities synergetic with Staggered, such as attacks targeting Movement etc.?

I got that. Therefor: the barbed tounge of grootslang goes against MV and hands out Slow… as well as the mentioned trigger. Staggered and Slow is quite some nice Handicap for your Opponent to Deal with. In my experience. 

The quicksand trigger of emissary, Adze and the barbed tounge 

I specificly love to use emissary with Good combos:

-widow weaver, Waldgeist etc. for droping or creating severe, conceiling markers

-Zoraida or Lucius for obeying and copying so you get the Most out of your emissary. 

-against bubbly Crews so the blast does the Trick. 

Same as @Regelridderen  

emissary is an interesting  Model in zoraida and titania since I Play 2xWaldgeist in nearly every Game with both… nice synergies. 
 

Rider i rarely use. I don’t like it that much and it seems to be „Not my kind of gameplay“… 

I use serena bowman against armor and incoporeal Heavy Crews.
 

hina is flexible in many Crews and Van be a decent flank Model. 

47 minutes ago, SEV said:

Well it's settle : we need a new Fae/Savage hench that will be able to summon Bultunglin 😀

Something like a Gnoll king. C'mon Wyrd make this happen pls!

Make the 🦖 dino give birth to bultungin 🤨

I Never thought about bultungin as an offensive model. To me they scream „schemer“ but then again 5ss is expansive for a Model with move 6, no Defense tech and Zero other shenanigans to make them decent schemers. 😢 i prefere Waldgeist… especialy since I find the Models to be more beautiful. 
 

but if you figure out how to use  them… give us a hint. 👍

Er played Break the line on a wedge deployment. 
schemes were: 

spread them out, bait n swich, leg them bleed, breakthrough and Research Mission. 
i took breakthrough and Research Mission. Easy peasy. 
 

played against bayou zipp and took breakthrough and Research Mission. 
 

teddy was my Last Choice of this List, just because i had 13 ss left and thought I could use some tankyness and muscle. He killed an Iron skeeter and an gator-that my Opponent slightiy overextended. But there could have Been better choices. 🤷🏻‍♀️