GoodPhule Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 So I have been running the Hoff recently and machine puppet is a great ability but has raised some questions that I am hoping you might all be able to help me answer. The first question is what abilities does the weapon retain? I know it says that it becomes cb6 of rams with critical strike but: • does it keep traits such as paired on the weapon? • does it keep its other triggers as well as critical strike or are they replaced? The other question is who is doing the attack, having looked at other threads it seems that it is the model not the Hoff so he can't use soul stones, is that correct? If it is, how does that work with the schemes and strategys? Does it count for Grudge as it is not the master attacking in melee? Does it also mean that Hoffman is not framed for murder? Thanks for any help or advice. ---------- Post added at 05:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:39 PM ---------- Sorry, don't know why this has posted twice. Lets all agree to post replies on the other thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jack* Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 I've never played with or against hoffman, but having looked up his rules and tactics whilst listening to a podcast recently... 1) The wording for machine puppet is "make a strike" - I'd assume this uses paired as normal, you're making a strike. 2) I'd also assume you keep the triggers - Gaining critical strike and changing the CB is neither here nor there, but I'm not as sure on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateful Darkblack Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The non-Hoffman is making the strike, so it will count for things like Grudge. They can only spend Soulstones if they could beforehand (for instance, if Hoffman uses it on himself). They keep Paired, triggers, and so on as usual. The only changes are the Cb change and the additional trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodPhule Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 That's great thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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