Alyce and aRamos - is there a definitive ruling?

[mattspooner]

Turn 1 - Ramos makes scrap, summons EC and SPA, Alyce loiters with intent

Turn 2 - Ramos makes scrap, summons spider

Alyce casts Burnout to reavtivate him

aRamos arrives. Does his wounds reduce, or because he is manifested before the closing phase, does he discard the 'effect'?

[Poltron]

He discards Burnout and any other "effect" on him. The Reactivate part is already done so you only lose the second effect of the spell by manifesting.

Try it the other way around, Rusty Factory Inc. Reactivate Ramos every turn instead, he could avatar first activation turn 2 and then start pumping 5SS minions each turn. Throw in a Student with Kaeris and that's 2 minions a turn! Can't wait for the Warden!

(Warning: Do not do this at home!)

Hope it helps!

[Barnaberible]

Why does he need student to pump out 2 minions a turn?

[Hateful Darkblack]

Yep, having Rusty Alyce give Ramos Reactivate turn two works the way you describe -- avoids all the damage and helps him activate faster. It's an awesome way to go, really.

[Poltron]

He doesn't need it, but with the student, aRamos could use Fast to create 2 Scrap then use Hasty Assembly all in one activation and with 0 Scrap to begin with. If by chance you would have more Scrap on you, on your second activation you could still manage to summon 1 more, or gather 2 more Scrap for the next turn. This is a very static way of playing him of course, and dangerous by been at only 1 wound all the time.

But like I said, don't try this at home! For experienced users only