tattyted Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Played a game today against a Viks crew. Got pretty hammered. He was fielding Viks with Von Schill, desperate Mercs and Killjoy. Boy was that a brutal team. Anyway, later on I was thinking about how to beat this crew and was looking at the cards for Viks and Von Schill. Viks can only hire mercenarys, but Von Schill has the freikorps rule that a crew hiring a freikorps can only hire other mercenaries that are Friekorps. So.............. my question is; was his crew legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kega Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 The freikorp rule only applies when you're hiring them as mercenaries. Since the Viks aren't hiring them out of faction they aren't mercenaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattyted Posted March 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 The freikorp rule only applies when you're hiring them as mercenaries. Since the Viks aren't hiring them out of faction they aren't mercenaries. Sorry, mate, don't follow that - the rules say (p72 of the manual) that you can hire up to 2 mercenaries from another faction but then say 'Mercenaries from the players chosen faction do not count towards this total' . Can't find any rule that says mercenaries lose the mercenary trait if they are of the same faction. Anyway, If they aren't mercenaries then the viks cant hire them -and couldn't hire any of the models that come in their box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledgem Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 If you're curious about the legitimacy of a list just use wyrd's official crew maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar86 Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 That is a completely legal crew. He's a mercenary, as is Killjoy, and the desperate mercenary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kega Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Sorry, I might've worded that poorly. The feikorp rule applies when a model is hired as a mercenary via the mercenary rule, not just when it has the mercenary type. They can hire a feikorp guy and a ronin because neither of them are being hired as mercenaries. Afaik, the only model that the Viks can hire with the mercenary rule is performers, which would prohibit them from hiring freikorp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattyted Posted March 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 Thanks guys, thats clearer. I think what confused me a bit is the mercenaries rule on p72 which seems to say that you can hire mercs but the ones in your faction don't count towards the 2 model rule. I was assuming that they were still being hired as mercs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar86 Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Sorry, I might've worded that poorly. The feikorp rule applies when a model is hired as a mercenary via the mercenary rule, not just when it has the mercenary type. They can hire a feikorp guy and a ronin because neither of them are being hired as mercenaries. Afaik, the only model that the Viks can hire with the mercenary rule is performers, which would prohibit them from hiring freikorp.The Hodgepodge Effigy is also one that would keep them from using the Freikorps, which is a shame because it's actually kinda cool. Edited April 1, 2012 by BlueStar86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatguy Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Hmmm. I thought that you could still bring the Hodgepodge Effigy, since it has Misfit, which allows it to be hired into Outcast Crews despite hiring restrictions. Although checking it out online, the Crew Builder doesn't seem to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebeccaJo Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Hmmm. I thought that you could still bring the Hodgepodge Effigy, since it has Misfit, which allows it to be hired into Outcast Crews despite hiring restrictions. Although checking it out online, the Crew Builder doesn't seem to agree. Misfit:Crews led by Outcast models may hire this model ignoring any Abilities that would prevent it from being hired. That's what it states in Book 3 verbatim, but that could have changed on his card. I was under the impression that the HodgePodge Effigy could be hired without restriction. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scurry Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 you couldnt take the hodgepodge in a crew containing freikorps due to the one special forces rule, which isnt an ability so cannot be ignored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar86 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I would dearly like to take the hodgepodge effigy and Von Schill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Clausewitz Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Scurry has it right. One Special forces group is not an ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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