Ozz Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Simple question. Hex: Target Non-master model loses 1 talent or spell of your choice until this model is removed from play. If normal Zoraida casts Hex, then transforms into the avatar, does the Hex get removed? Or does it staying effect? Is the transformation classed as Zoraida being removed from play when she transforms? Edited October 10, 2011 by Ozz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Manifesting removes effects on Zoraida, not on something she has cast it on. There is no rule that states an effect ends if the ability which put an effect on a model ends if the model loses the ability that causes it. Thus if you copy Link with the Dopplegager, and then Link to a model you don't lose your link at the end of the turn just because the ganger lost the ability to Link. The Effect specifies when it ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozz Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Edited my post a little bit to make the parts im unsure of more noticeable, as im unsure myself of the way this would work, as is my friend who plays her:) That and i didnt quite manage to follow your answer to well:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bigglesworth Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Zoradia and zoradia Avatar are the same. Avatars count as the previous master they replaced for almost all gaming purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozz Posted October 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 So hex stays, cool:) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozz Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Hmm, apparently due to the word model, that explanation was not quite enough:( The model changes from the Hag model to the avatar model and Hex says when the model is removed, not the character, so he is still unsure, and phrased like that so am i a bit:) (he is the player, just i figured id ask as he does not come here and post yet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandwich Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Hmm, apparently due to the word model, that explanation was not quite enough:( The model changes from the Hag model to the avatar model and Hex says when the model is removed, not the character, so he is still unsure, and phrased like that so am i a bit:) (he is the player, just i figured id ask as he does not come here and post yet) They are considered to be the exact same model mechanically. It should be thought of as if they had never left the game at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bigglesworth Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Simple last bullet "an avatar counts as the master it replaces for all encounter purposes, included, but not limited to, calculating vp." Not even debatable. If you don't have book 3 that makes ssense cause cards don't give enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozz Posted October 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Thanks, hopefully this will be enough to convince him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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