No Escape

[redben]

Can Seamus nominate a model for No Escape he is already engaged with? Is the model held in place for Seamus' charge or does Seamus follow it? If the model doesn't move and his attack misses can the target disengage or does the movement effect automatically fail? What exactly constitutes a movement effect?

[Hookers]

Yes you may nominate a model you are engaged with. However, you may not charge a model you are engaged with, so you would be effectively wasting your (0) action.

Movement effects are defined on page 35 of the rules manual as a Walk, Charge, or Jump action, moved using the Wk/Cg stat, pushed, or falling back.

[redben]

If Seamus can't charge a model he's engaged with I take it that the target model doesn't actually get to move. If Seamus misses can the model then move as if he'd failed with a disengaging strike?

[Soundwave]

Seamus can't charge a model that he's in melee with, so he doesn't get do to the strike at all.

[redben]

Maybe I should have put those two sentences separately. If Seamus charges a model that he wasn't engaged with using No Escape and misses, does the model then get to move as if he had missed with a disengaging strike?

[Soundwave]

Maybe I should have put those two sentences separately. If Seamus charges a model that he wasn't engaged with using No Escape and misses, does the model then get to move as if he had missed with a disengaging strike?

Aaah, I see.

It should go something like this:

1. Model declares a move/gets pushed/whatnot

2. Seamus charges via No Escape before the model moves.

3. Seamus misses

4. If moving normally, Seamus is now within melee range, and as such can do a disengaging strike. Disengaging strikes happens when the model would leave Seamus' melee range, so now is the time. If pushed there's no disengaging strikes as usual.

Edited September 30, 2011 by Soundwave

[redben]

If he hits does that stop any movement or is a disengaging strike then also required?

[Headcase2]

Still requires a disengaging strike.