M3E SS Costs vs M2E

[monkeyboy30672]

Hey, folks,

So, to my understanding, as I've read the rules PDF, Masters now costs soul stones and Totems don't cost anything at all, assuming their specific Master is the Leader of the crew. 

That being true, seems like either crews will have far fewer soul stones to use in a game or crews will be smaller on average, or possibly both. 

If I have Pandora, Poltergeist, Candy, Baby Kade, Teddy, and 2 Sorrows, that's 50 ss right there. Wow. Used to be I could get all that for less than 45 and even get 3 ss in a cache just for having Pandora. But don't get me wrong... I'm fine with it! I guess it's been a while since I played (early M2E,), because it just seems like I had a good bit of ss left over or another model in the crew with an Upgrade or two spread around. It'll be something to get used to. 

[Sweet Tooth]

29 minutes ago, monkeyboy30672 said:

Hey, folks,

So, to my understanding, as I've read the rules PDF, Masters now costs soul stones and Totems don't cost anything at all, assuming their specific Master is the Leader of the crew. 

That being true, seems like either crews will have far fewer soul stones to use in a game or crews will be smaller on average, or possibly both. 

If I have Pandora, Poltergeist, Candy, Baby Kade, Teddy, and 2 Sorrows, that's 50 ss right there. Wow. Used to be I could get all that for less than 45 and even get 3 ss in a cache just for having Pandora. But don't get me wrong... I'm fine with it! I guess it's been a while since I played (early M2E,), because it just seems like I had a good bit of ss left over or another model in the crew with an Upgrade or two spread around. It'll be something to get used to. 

From pg 42 of the Rulebook, when hiring crews, your leader’s cost is considered to be 0. So in your example above, you’ve only used 35 stones.

That said, I’ve found most people still bring around 7-9 models in a crew.

[monkeyboy30672]

Ah!! I missed that!! Thanks!

But, then... why would Leaders have costs listed...?

[Sweet Tooth]

There are certain schemes and ability interactions that look at a model’s cost (Such as Following Orders on Lucius’s keyword models). 

Also, since we can hire second (and third, or fourth!) masters into crews, they need to have a cost associated with them. Most masters cost 15 stones, but some like Lady Justice or Jakob Lynch have a different cost.