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Shrug Off and Poison - Noob question


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Noob 2e player question.  I see the historical posts about 1.5 Poison using tokens.  But that seemed to change in 2e. 

According to the 2e rule book, conditions with a variable stack to form one condition with the total. So two hits of Flaming+1 or Poison  +1 become Flaming +2 or Poison +2 respectively.

Shrug off gets rid of one condition - which would be the entire total. 

So let's say a Pistolero who had not activated yet got hit by a Wicked Doll with Infect for Poison +1 and a bite from the Widow Weaver for Poison +3.  Now he has Poison +4.  Pistolero activates.  If he's engaged with the Wicked Doll, he immediately takes one Poison damage.  But then discards a card for his zero action Shrug Off, and the remaining Poison +3 is gone.

Did I get that right? 

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The action in question:

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(0) Shrug Off: This model may discard a card to remove one Condition from this model.

Going over the rules to double check, first we have the Condition rules:

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Conditions stack if the Condition's name includes a value and the Conditions have the same name, for instance Poison +1. When this is the case, the values are added together and the two Conditions become one. Conditions may also stack with Abilities which share the same name and include a value. Conditions presented without a value in their name do not stack, and a model that would get a second instance of a Condition simply ignores it (the second instance is not applied).

So according to that, if you have Poison +1 on a model, and apply another instance of Poison +1, the result is one instance of Poison with a value of +2.  In the case of Poison, it's really important how many instances of Poison there would be on the model, and it's very deliberate that the model only has one Poison on it for Poison to work right.

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Poison +1: At the end of the turn this model suffers 1 damage, then lower this model's Poison Condition value by 1.

All of the instances where you're supposed to just lower the value of a condition (instead of removing it completely whatever it's value) should say "reduce" or "lower".

So, yeah, when you use Shrug Off to remove Poison, if you had Poison +2 on the model, you don't have Poison on the model any more.

 

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