Ruthless Vs. Pandora

[Cpeerson]

Ok so a little confused about a model with Ruthless attacking Pandora. Would Pandora operate as normal when attacked by a model with Ruthless and do all her normal WP duel tricks. Or does Ruthless change the way all those tricks she can do work, aka she can still use her WP for defense but doesn't count as a WP duel? Just like some outside input on this.

[Adran]

The model with Ruthless is immune to all Wp duels during its activation.

 

This means that any duel it has to take in which IT uses Wp it will automatically pass. It it was trying to shoot Pandora, then it would use its Sh skill against Pandoras Wp skill.

Since it is using Sh it considers it an Sh duel.

Pandora considers it a Wp duel.

So if it fails it has lost a Sh duel (not a Wp duell) so no damage from Misery

If Pandora wins she has won a Wp duel, so she gets her push.

[The Godlyness]

A ruthless model attacking Pandora does nothing unless Pandora has "the box opens" upgrade which gives her terrifying. Which you would ignore the horror duel and just attack her.

Ruthless ignores things like insidious madness make a tn 10 duel or fail ability. It ignores horror duels. It ignores things that make you do a wp duel.

Also when you attack Pandora you are using Sh,Ca,Ml. So for your model it is one of those Pandora can always choose to use her wp and for her it's a wp duel Which if she wins will trigger fading memory.

Edit. And ninjad

[Cpeerson]

Oh so it only counts as WP duel for Pandora for her triggers regardless of Ruthless. We were counting it as a WP duel when attacking too for effects like Misery, oops.

[The Godlyness]

on a ruthless models turn there is no way he could take misery damage as he just ignores wp duels.

 

now after he activates he is free game