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I didn't know this was asking for 3e only

I think nekima will lead the pack. She's such a great starter for beginners. And very fun.

If I used vogul in a saber I would use the tear off bite to heal back as long as the other saber was in range Or miranda . Onslaught with Marcus and miranda. It's very situational. I would use words and push saber up then hit the saber with fancy cain to get the saber charger and boom dead model. Then butterfly jump after they attack the saber to keep him alive. Miranda activates heals saber then call of the wild again. Then if next model isn't dead accomplices to finish of. This is just one strategy but an effective one... the whole process is gone now.

You never use vogul as the beast unless Late in the game or something goes wrong. His ranged attack and ability to hand out shielded also he removes markers to prevent. You put him behind the line for a stronger attack like sabertooths. Your correct I'm wrong in Paul and I've been playing him wrong for a long long time it's a melee attack not charge on scene of blood. So it is just Marcus miranda and vogul.

I've been unboxing her a lot I think scamper will be very good on her and I'm thinking of a way thoon can do a ice bury and use scamper to move out of the way and have euripides move it 10 inches away. A way to remove a strong enemy model. Unboxing only gets you so far. I should get a few games in today. Thanks though.

Paul gets 2 attacks off different models. Scent of blood coordinated attack. Now without triggers. Vogul had fancy cain stick em. You hit your own beast which is almost everyone. Marcus miranda call off the wild. I put it on both sabertooths and flight on Marcus miranda. I'm missing out on a ton of damage with triggers. Santa do you play Marcus at all?? I use call of the wild to get initial hit in then if model takes enough damage I'll use acompless and finish with whatever saber is in there. Butterfly Junp allowed me to make my opponent waste ap and position. It affects almost the whole crew...

Anyone who plays Marcus has to constantly think up different ways to keep him going he's very different than other masters. And exparementing and unboxing and trying to come up with outside the box thinking which had led to some very satisfying wins. He would be the last master I would think should need changing. So ya I'm upset. I'm am going to take ogid's advice and a few of my friends abs shelf him I'll never get rid of him. Euripides will keep me entertained for now. And nekima will always be worth the ss.

The butterfly jump. Not getting my triggers from attacks. and what I thought was miranda's replace getting nerfed. Though you've shown me it's not... having 4 butterfly jumps was a main stay in Marcus in neverborn. But taking away his trigger attacks from call of the wild or from Paul's attacks as well. That's not allot??? Marcus. Miranda. Vogul. Paul. All give attacks. Now with no triggers.

I should have got away from Marcus a long time ago but he was given to me to get me into the game and I've never been able to part with him and I cannot honestly think of a game I've played in the last year that I didn't take in human reflexes in any crew that I played and never born. Ogid can I still take Miranda and change her to say Jackalope like we were talking about to prevent scoring or has the new replace rules changed that?

And Vegas wasn't a big event agreed but it did get a lot of attention which as you said with the timing is just one heck of a coincidence I guess

The butterfly jump with flight question was from me and a buddy was playing a game and I was just trying to make him mad on purpose LOL and I had to post a question on the forum as per our bet i guess you could call it

When I play in a tournament I have to declare faction I got Marcus nekama euripides now there's no reason to play Marcus in never born not a strong reason to and I mean this literally affects two of my three crews that I play in tournaments so for me personally it's a big hit to one of my main strategies

I think people are entitled to be disappointed a lot of us have a lot of time and money invested in this game and when a change like this happens and its on several different forums the comments of stop complaining and just deal with it those are pretty frustrating because if we don't complain they won't change it back and I personally do think this is because of Vegas

Yeah I literally just was reading that in submitting an apology for reply when I seen your comment ogid yes I'm sorry I interpreted the wrong way but between this and Facebook it's starting to get pretty frustrated

Hell you don't even need mobile Warrior now

It's a big change the butterfly jump trade for scamper. It's going to be talked about. Beating a drum ir beating a dead horse depending in where your from. If everyone is talking about it in a negative way maybe it was a bad change. Maybe it was a reaction to Vegas... maybe they didn't test it enough before they changed it. Maybe I'd enough people beat the drum they will change it back. As with all changed they came from people commenting... the purpose of a discussion is for input. Saying stop beating the drum is like answering a rules question with... obviously the rule is...

No mobile warrior. Attack scamper charge I put charge first my bad

I've already thought of the positive though inhuman reflexes on a young Nephilim or mature you charge they cheat you charge again if they cheat that would increase nekimas Alpha strike ability quite a bit

Can't really be beating a drum when it hasn't been out for 24 hours in human reflexes butterfly jump is one of the most important if not the most important way of keeping neverborn Miniatures alive sure we're all going to play games and come up with new strategies but in a faction this already brittle taking out one of the best defensive text we have it's just very disappointing and as far as people have been complaining about it for a while people have been complaining about some aspect of the game at some point for a very long time this is just one example I personally as a never born player think this is a little much

They took butterfly Jump out of ir... that's crazy.

Its says move. A walk is a move

Second question is butterfly jump not a walk

If I have flight on a model and butterfly jump ir. Can I jump over a player as long as my base clears him. Like if he's in base to base with me??

I pre ordered geryon too. Or rather my wife did for me as a gift and the site holds all till release. Thanks anyway though.

Thanks all these are perfect on the road