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On 2/15/2019 at 6:54 PM, Angelshard said:

@Bluefyr Because even with the risk it's already a very strong ability with very little risk. Nothing else in this game can improve your deck.

Look at the math @Andrew James Princep provided in the other Lucid dream thread. After 15 uses your deck has improved your average draw from 7 to 8. That is the same as improving every single one of your stats by one on every model in your crew. Your chances of flipping a moderate or severe on a negative flip goes from 33% to 55%, that is a significant improvement.

These numbers are with the risk of removing a severe. Remove that risk and the ability goes through the roof.

I don't think it's true to say increasing your deck average by 1 is the same as increasing all your models stats by 1. Increasing your deck average gives you a better chance of winning the initial duel but when it comes to cheating if your opponent has a higher card in hand then it really doesn't matter how good the rest of your deck is.

hmmm yeah you might be right, plus perhaps all the shuffling would slow play to a bit of a ridiculous degree.

3 hours ago, kaintxu said:

Somplayed dreamer last night; by end of turn 3 I had removed 1,1,2,3,4,5,7. 

While it seems great it also made my deck worse as every time I was flipping, while I got rid of a weak card I was discarding a 7 and a 12, or an 11 and a 13... most of the time a moderate and a sever less for that the. In my deck and it made me lose many duels and coppelius died by 1st then 2 activation and chomps only survived due to soulstones. 

I think now it’s in a fair place piwerwise but I do think it’s too risky if you are say in a tournament. Removing those 7 cards did not change the deck that much 

Yeh that's what it seems like to me, feels like your making future deck better but this turns deck a lot worse as you can end up discarding severe and moderate a lot.

Maybe if the ability was something like

"Remove one card, discard one card, shuffle one back into the deck"

I'm not a maths whiz but I think if you do get really unlucky and draw three 'good' cards having to discard all of them seems like enough of a punishment, being forced to remove one from the game seems like overkill.

18 hours ago, Tamota said:

Maybe it should be like this:

BA Lucid Dream: Look at the top (or two) cards of your deck. You may remove one of cards from the deck unless it's a joker. Put remaining cards on top of deck in any order.

If we want synergy with Savage:

BA Lucid Dream: Look at the top and bottom cards of your deck. You may remove one of cards from the deck unless it's a joker. Put remaining cards on top of deck in any order.

You have less control over this ability, have chance to miss (if you don't want to remove 6+), but don't waste any resource (cards and health).

I like the first option you suggested, I also the idea that was suggested about making it remove a discarded card like before but it requiring a simple duel with a low target number.

Although I think my first choice would be a new ability entirely as I don't find Lucid Dream feels very fun, or cool to use.