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Wait, you're not supposed to paint with goo!? Damn, I'm doing it wrong. I thin my paints (because everyone tells me I should) so I assumed I should be okay, I'm just really apprehensive to mess it up because I'm really pleased with the rest of the model.

Just finished my second crew and discovered a much better way to do skin. Looking back at my Lady Justice, I kind of want to redo her flesh now but I don't want to strip her because I like the rest of the model. So, if I just paint a new color of for her skin and re-wash, etc., will I lose much detail on her?

Fetid Strumpet: AP modifiers added

Yes, I factored in all of their attacks. Had three columns: Melee attack 1, Melee attack 2 and Ranged attack. When it came time to figure out averages and the like, I gave models with two melee attacks two entries on the tables (LCB Melee 1 and LCB Melee 2).

Fixed the Molly Severe damage thing. And you're right brdparker, this is one of those threads where nit-picky is fine @ Fetid Strumpet: The AP modifier might be worth looking into but what I don't want to do is start making lists of everything, you know? But AP modifiers specifically would be pretty easy to add in, methinks and pretty interesting.

...I totally forgot to do the average by henchmen, masters and totems. Once I stop hanging my head in shame, I'll get on that.

Edited and included everyone's requests and corrections so far. Still don't have my copy of Twisting Fates back. Hey, does anyone know how you add that line across an entire post? I see it sometimes when people edit a post.

I don't hate my models, but they're just a base coat and wash. They're simple and I was only striving for "table-top" quality so I know they're not as good as people who have actual, y'know, skill and technique and take their time. But thanks. As a Raspy player, I would go for the second crew, with 6 cache and a silent one. If someone does demo and enjoys the game and wants to pick her, they will end up with a silent one, whereas the ice golem, while big and showy, won't make an appearance in their games nearly as often. Plus, the silent one helps show off one of Raspy's big powers. In regards to the "flashiness", you have two things to fight that. 1) your other crews will draw people in even if Raspy doesn't and 2) ice pillars! Don't use tokens, but actually make some ice pillars to throw down on the table and I can pretty much guarantee people will notice her.

Also, because you mentioned the Trigun thing, I wanted to share my Death Marshal crew with you :1_Happy_Puppet1: http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy313/oriann/Models/TheDeathMarshals.jpg Now, it's nowhere near as good as yours but I couldn't not post it after you mentioned red coats.

I like spreadsheets. So, I made a spreadsheet of all the Masters, Henchmen, Totems and Minions in the game and broke them down into many, many categories because I like to “crunch numbers” like this. NOTES This is the numbers only. I did not factor in triggers, spells, talents (with the exception of Gunfighter), blasts, or anything else. It is purely the statistics printed on the cards. In the case of models with no melee attack, I gave them a value of 0. I do not have anything from Twisting Fates as my copy is being lent to a friend. If there is interest, I’ll update this to include the new minions and Avatars once I get it back. In all cases, I rounded .5+ up. (NEW) Added AP Modifiers. As I need to give myself some sort of guidelines, I am limiting this to only Fast, Melee Expert, Casting Expert, Ranged Expert, Reckless, Instinctual, and Nimble. I wasn’t going to initially include Reckless but every damn Gremlin and Pig has it so I figured I might as well. I may add things like Flurry, Rapid Fire and model specific ones (Wade In, Relentless, etc.) at a future time but for now, they are not included. Exceptions: I counted the Doppelganger as having Instinctual, LCB/The Dreamer as having Fast, Instinctual and ME, the Corpyhee Duet as having Fast and Instinctual Although a Hollow Waif is not technically a totem, they don't really fit into any other category so for these tables, they "count as" totems. FACTION SUMMARIES THE ARCANISTS 4 Masters, 1 Henchman, 6 Totems, 25 Minions. 16 Constructs, 17 Living models, 3 Spirits 9 Insignificant models (including Totems) 8 Beasts, 6 Showgirls, 3 M&SU Members, 1 Mercenary, 4 M&SU Assets 1 Scavenger, 3 Graverobbers 2 Rare 1, 6 Rare 2, 10 Unique 4 Casting Expert, 1 Fast, 4 Instinctual, 4 Melee Expert, 1 Melee Master, 1 Nimble, 1 Slow THE GUILD 4 Masters, 1 Henchman, 6 Totems, 20 Minions. 7 Constructs, 23 Living, 1 Spirit. 6 Insignificant models (including Totems) 2 Beasts, 3 Death Marshals, 6 Family, 5 Guardsman, 1 M&SU Member, 1 Nephilim, 1 Neverborn, 1 Witchling, 4 Elites Division 2 Scavengers 2 Rare 1, 5 Rare 2, 13 Unique 2 Casting Expert, 1 Fast, 1 Instinctual, 1 Melee Expert, 1 Ranged Expert NEVERBORN 4 Masters, 1 Henchman, 5 Totems, 22 Minions. 7 Constructs, 15 Living, 8 Nightmare, 5 Spirit. 7 Insignificant models (including Totems) 2 Beasts, 9 Nephilim, 7 Woes, 4 Dolls. 1 Scavenger 2 Rare 1, 3 Rare 2, 2 Rare 3, 1 Rare 4, 11 Unique 5 Casting Expert, 2 Fast, 5 Instinctual, 7 Melee Expert OUTCASTS 4 Masters, 2 Henchman, 6 Totems, 35 Minions. 3 Constructs, 35 Living, 7 Soulless, 3 Undead, 2 Spirit. 16 Insignificant models (including Totems) 12 Gremlin, 21 Mercenary, 3 Pig, 3 Vermin, 1 Neverborn, 1 M&SU Member, 5 Freikorps, 6 Kin 3 Graverobber, 1 Scavenger 1 Rare 1, 3 Rare 2, 1 Rare 4, 15 Unique 2 Casting Expert, 2 Fast, 3 Instinctual, 7 Melee Expert, 14 Reckless, 1 Slow RESURRECTIONIST 4 Masters, 1 Henchman, 6 Totems, 23 Minions. 4 Constructs, 9 Living, 10 Spirits, 17 Under, 1 Nightmare. 8 Insignificant models (including Totems) 3 Beasts, 3 Belles, 2 Horrors 9 Graverobber 1 Rare 1, 2 Rare 2, 1 Rare 5, 8 Unique 1 Casting Expert, 1 Fast, 2 Instinctual, 2 Melee Expert, 1 Nimble TOTAL 20 Masters, 6 Henchman, 29 Totems, 125 Minions. 37 Constructs, 99 Living, 9 Nightmare, 21 Spirits, 7 Soulless, 20 Undead 46 Insignificant 13 Beasts, 3 Belles, 3 Death Marshals, 4 Elite Division, 6 Family, 5 Freikorps, 12 Gremlin, 5 Guardsman, 2 Horrors, 6 Kin, 4 M&SU Assets, 5 M&SU Members, 22 Mercenaries, 10 Nephilim, 3 Pigs, 6 Showgirls, 3 Vermin, 1 Witchling 8x Rare 1, 19x Rare 2, 2x Rare 4, 1x Rare 5, 57x Unique 5 Scavengers, 15 Graverobbers 14 Casting Expert, 7 Fast, 15 Instinctual, 21 Melee Expert, 1 Melee Master, 3 Nimble, 1 Ranged Expert, 14 Reckless, 2 Slow 13 SS: Neverborn 1, Outcast 1 12 SS: Outcast 1 11 SS: Arcanist 1, Outcast 1 10 SS: Arcanist 1, Guild 1, Neverborn 2, Outcast 1, Ressurectionist 2 9 SS: Arcanist 4, Guild 1, Neverborn 2, Outcast 3, Ressurectionist 2 8 SS: Arcanist 3, Guild 2, Neverborn 4, Outcast 5, Ressurectionist 2 7 SS: Arcanist 3, Guild 8, Neverborn 2, Outcast 3, Ressurectionist 3 6 SS: Arcanist 5, Guild 2, Neverborn 4, Outcast 5, Ressurectionist 2 5 SS: Arcanist 2, Guild 2, Neverborn 2, Outcast 7, Ressurectionist 3 4 SS: Arcanist 1, Guild 3, Neverborn 1, Outcast 3, Ressurectionist 2 3 SS: Arcanist 3, Guild 4, Neverborn 4, Outcast 5, Ressurectionist 4 2 SS: Arcanist 4, Guild 4, Neverborn 5, Outcast 7, Ressurectionist 7 1 SS: Arcanist 1, Ressurectionist 1 AVERAGES, HIGHS AND LOWS SOULSTONE CACHE [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]3 soulstones[/td] [td]6 (McMourning) [/td] [td]0 (All Outcasts, The Dreamer) [/td] [/tr][/table] SOULSTONE COST [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]10 (Lucius) [/td] [td]8 (Collodi, Kaeris, Ophelia) [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Totem[/td] [td]2 [/td] [td]3 (Mechanical Attendant, Mobile Toolkit, Student of Conflict)[/td] [td]1 (Grave Spirit, Jackalope, Zombie Chihuahua)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]6[/td] [td] 13 (Nekima, Ashes and Dust [/td] [td]2 (Malifaux Raptor, Marionette, Bayou Gremlin, Desperate Mercenary, Malifaux Rat, Seishin, Canine Remains)[/td] [/tr][/table] WALK [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]4[/td] [td] 6 (Lilith, Perdita)[/td] [td] 3 (Ramos, Rasputina, Hoffman, Pandora, Dreamer, Zoraida, Leveticus, Nicodem)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]6 (Hoffman, Leveticus, Lilith, Perdita)[/td] [td]3 (Justice; technically Pandora and Viktoria cannot walk at all)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]6 (Ophelia)[/td] [td]2 (Collodi) [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Totem[/td] [td]5 [/td] [td]10 (Mosquito, Vulture)[/td] [td]3 (Governor's Proxy, Scales of Justice, Hollow Waif, Malifaux Child)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]9 (Coryphee Duet)[/td] [td]2 (Pigapult) [/td] [/tr][/table] CHARGE [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]10 (Perdita)[/td] [td]0 (Colette, Hoffman, Pandora, Dreamer, Zoraida, Leveticus)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]10 (Leveticus, Perdita)[/td] [td]6 (Hamelin, Rasputina, Sonia, Zoraida)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]9 (Ophelia [/td] [td]5 (Collodi [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Totem[/td] [td]5 [/td] [td]10 (Malifaux Cherub, Giant Mosquito, Vulture)[/td] [td]0 (8 way tie) [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]12 (Razorspine Rattler) [/td] [td]0 (21 way tie)[/td] [/tr][/table] WILLPOWER [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]10 (Zoraida)[/td] [td]5 (Lord Chompy Bits, McMourning, Kirai)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]9 (Hamelin)[/td] [td]5 (Seamus)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6 (Lucius, Kaeris, Collodi, Von Schill)[/td] [td]4 (Ophelia)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Totem[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]9 (Hollow Waif)[/td] [td]3 (Mobile Toolkit, Young Lacroix, Malifaux Child)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]10 (Electrical Creation, Pigapult)[/td] [td]3 (Piglet, Pere Ravage, Gaki, Seishin)[/td] [/tr][/table] CAST [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]8 (Ramos)[/td] [td]5 (Hoffman, Lady Justice, Lord Chompy Bits, Som’er Teeth Jones, Lilith)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]8 (Ramos, Sonia)[/td] [td]5 (Candy, Hoffman, Som'er)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]7 (Molly)[/td] [td]3 (Von Schill)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Totem[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]5 (Brass Arachnid, Governor's Proxy, Mechanical Attendant, Purifying Flame, Malifaux Cherub, Primodrial Magic, Obedient Wretch)[/td] [td]2 (Giant Mosquito, Vulture)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]7 (Lawyer)[/td] [td]1 (Pigapult)[/td] [/tr][/table] DEFENSE [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8 (Lilith, Perdita)[/td] [td]2 (Ramos, Pandora, Dreamer, Leveticus, Kirai)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]7 (Candy)[/td] [td]3 (Hoffman, Nicodem, Seamus)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]6 (Ophelia)[/td] [td]4 (Lucius, Molly)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Totem[/td] [td]4 [/td] [td]8 (Voodoo Doll)[/td] [td]2 (Essence of Power)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]7 (Coryphee Duet, Bete Noire, Candy, Baby Kade)[/td] [td]1 (Pigapult)[/td] [/tr][/table] WOUNDS [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]12 (Lady Justice, Hamelin, McMourning, Nicodem, Seamus)[/td] [td]6 (Colette)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]12 (Hamelin, Justice, McMourning, Nicodem, Seamus, The Dreamer, Viktoria)[/td] [td]8 (Candy, Colette)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]10 (Molly, Von Schill)[/td] [td]9 (Ophelia, Collodi, Lucius, Kaeris)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Totem[/td] [td]4 [/td] [td]6 (Giant Mosquito)[/td] [td]2 (Essence of Power, Jackalope, Daydream, Voodoo Doll)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]12 (Warpig, Nekima, Bad Juju, Killjoy, Desolation Engine)[/td] [td]1 (The Stolen)[/td] [/tr][/table] MELEE COMBAT [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]7 (Lady Justice, Perdita, Viktoria, Lilith)[/td] [td]3 (Ramos, Rasputina, Pandora, Colette)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]8 (Viktoria)[/td] [td]4 (Nicodem, Pandora)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6 (Everyone except Molly)[/td] [td]3 (Molly)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Totem[/td] [td]4 [/td] [td]5 (Poltergeist, Young Lacroix)[/td] [td]1 (Governor’s Proxy)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]7 (Punk Zombie, Baby Kade, Cassandra, Coryphee Duet, Bishop, Fracisco, Misaki, Ashes and Dust, Teddy, Steamborg Executioner, Rogue Necromancy, Killjoy, Taelor, Nekima)[/td] [td]3 (Santiago, Nino, Raphael Lacroix, Silent One, Night Terror, Steampunk Abomination, Mindless Zombie)[/td] [/tr][/table] MELEE SEVERE DAMAGE [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]12 (Leveticus)[/td] [td]3 (Rasputina, Pandora, Som’er Teeth, Nicodem)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]5[/td] [td] 12 (Leveticus)[/td] [td]2 (Colette)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]5 (Collodi)[/td] [td]3 (Kaeris)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]4 [/td] [td]10 (Teddy)[/td] [td]1 (Black Blood Shaman, Nurse, Jack Daw, Performer)[/td] [/tr][/table] RANGED RG [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]12 (Viktoria, Dreamer)[/td] [td]8 (Seamus)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]12 (Perdita)[/td] [td]6 (Kirai)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]10 (Kaeris, Von Schill)[/td] [td]8 (Ophelia)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]10 [/td] [td]24 (Pigapult)[/td] [td]6 (Killjoy, Joss, Hamelin, Warpig, Performer)[/td] [/tr][/table] RANGED COMBAT [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]7 (Perdita, Hamelin)[/td] [td]4 (Lady Justice, Sonnia)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]7 (Hamelin, Perdita)[/td] [td]4 (Seamus)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6 (Kaeris, Von Schill, Ophelia)[/td] [td]6 (Kaeris, Von Schill, Ophelia)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]7 (Nino, Guild Austringer)[/td] [td]4 (16 way tie)[/td] [/tr][/table] RANGED SEVERE DAMAGE [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Average[/td] [td]Highest[/td] [td]Lowest[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Master[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]7 (Seamus)[/td] [td]3 (Hamelin)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Avatar[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]6 (Ramos)[/td] [td]2 (Colette, Kirai)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Henchmen[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]5 (Von Schill)[/td] [td]3 (Kaeris)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]6 (December Acolyte, Pigapult)[/td] [td]1 (Watcher, Jack Daw)[/td] [/tr][/table] THE AVERAGE MODEL IN MALIFAUX 5 SS; Wk/Cg 5/6; Ht 2; Wp 5; Ca 5; Df 4; Wd 7 Melee Rg 1; Cb 5; Dg 2/3/4 Ranged Rg 10; Cb 5; Dg 2/3/4 AVERAGES BY SS COST AND FACTION This is a breakdown of averages only by SS cost and Faction. It is for minions only (no Totems, Henchmen or Masters) and I did not bother with Minions over 10 SS (there are only five) nor with Minions under 2 SS (who cares?). Also, because rounding produces a whole lot of similar numbers, I’m including fractions. 10 SOULSTONES [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Wk[/td] [td]Cg[/td] [td]Wp[/td] [td]Ca[/td] [td]Df[/td] [td]Wd[/td] [td]MC[/td] [td]MS[/td] [td]RC[/td] [td]RS[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]8.5[/td] [td]5.67[/td] [td]4.83[/td] [td]4.33[/td] [td]10.17[/td] [td]6.5[/td] [td]5.83[/td] [td]-[/td] [td]-[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Arcanist[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]6 [/td] [td]-[/td] [td]-[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Guild[/td] [td]-[/td] [td]- [/td] [td]- [/td] [td]- [/td] [td]- [/td] [td]- [/td] [td]- [/td] [td]- [/td] [td]- [/td] [td]- [/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Neverborn[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]8.5[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6.5[/td] [td]-[/td] [td]-[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Outcast[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]-[/td] [td]-[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion – Resurrectionist[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]9.5[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]9.5[/td] [td]6.5[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]-[/td] [td]-[/td] [/tr][/table] 9 SOULSTONES [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Wk[/td] [td]Cg[/td] [td]Wp[/td] [td]Ca[/td] [td]Df[/td] [td]Wd[/td] [td]MC[/td] [td]MS[/td] [td]RC[/td] [td]RS[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]4.6[/td] [td]6.4[/td] [td]5.8[/td] [td]4.9[/td] [td]4.6[/td] [td]8.44[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]5.2[/td] [td]3.67[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Arcanist[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]6.67[/td] [td]5.33[/td] [td]3.67[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8.33[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Guild[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]5[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Neverborn[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]9.5[/td] [td]6.5[/td] [td]7.5[/td] [td]-[/td] [td]-[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Outcast[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]2.5[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]2.5[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion – Resurrectionist[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr][/table] 8 SOULSTONES [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Wk[/td] [td]Cg[/td] [td]Wp[/td] [td]Ca[/td] [td]Df[/td] [td]Wd[/td] [td]MC[/td] [td]MS[/td] [td]RC[/td] [td]RS[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]4.62[/td] [td]6.85[/td] [td]5.46[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [td]4.46[/td] [td]8.46[/td] [td]5.46[/td] [td]4.54[/td] [td]5.13[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Arcanist[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]9.5[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]8.5[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Guild[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]9.5[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Neverborn[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]7.33[/td] [td]4.67[/td] [td]4.67[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]8.33[/td] [td]5.33[/td] [td]3.67[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]3[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Outcast[/td] [td]4.25[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]5.75[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]8.75[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]4.33[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion – Resurrectionist[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]6.5[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]2[/td] [/tr][/table] 7 SOULSTONES [table=width: 650, class: outer_border] [tr] [td]Category[/td] [td]Wk[/td] [td]Cg[/td] [td]Wp[/td] [td]Ca[/td] [td]Df[/td] [td]Wd[/td] [td]MC[/td] [td]MS[/td] [td]RC[/td] [td]RS[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion[/td] [td]4.53[/td] [td]5.53x[/td] [td]5.58[/td] [td]5.05[/td] [td]4.32[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]5.12[/td] [td]4.12[/td] [td]5.43[/td] [td]4.13[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Arcanist[/td] [td]5.67[/td] [td]6.33[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]5.33[/td] [td]6.67[/td] [td]5.33[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Guild[/td] [td]3.88[/td] [td]4.38[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4.88[/td] [td]3.75[/td] [td]8.63[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]5.6[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Neverborn[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]-[/td] [td]-[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion - Outcast[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]7.33[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]5.33[/td] [td]4.33[/td] [td]6.33[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]Minion – Resurrectionist[/td] [td]4.67[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]5.33[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]9.33[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]4.67[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]4[/td] [/tr][/table] EDIT 1: Separated SS Cache and Cost at Dustcrusher's request. Add in Melee Cb for Henchmen under highest and lowest. I hadn't originally because it's all the same but I put it back in (as chucklemonkey pointed out) for completion's sake. Patchwork, I threw a "Bash" attack into the spreadsheet and, because I'm rounding, it had no appreciable effect but it was worth a shot. I honestly totally forgot Bash attacks even existed EDIT 2: Added in Bash attack for Molly and Colette as it did actually have an effect on their Cb. Thanks to Adanedhel for pointing that out. EDIT 3: Added Molly to "Melee Dg Severe: Lowest Henchmen". EDIT 4: Added AP modifiers to the Faction summaries. EDIT 5: Added breakdown of Soulstone costs by faction. Playing around with tables and readability. EDIT 6:Converted things to tables. Much more readable now. EDIT 7: Started Averages by SS Cost and Faction. EDIT 8: Finally added Avatars.

Temporarily, when her heart burst from her chest to prevent December from "stepping in". But then he brought her back because, y'know, he kind of needs her. At first, I had issue with the three "they're dead! Aha, no they're not!" trick but the more I thought about it, the more I liked it. In a game where you use Fate decks, cheat fate, gain positive and negative twists of fate and read a book called Twisting Fates, I'm okay with the idea the Masters are a cut above on the destiny spectrum.

Do you want us to spoil it and tell you what happened to her or do you want to read the book yourself?

I love the brass effect on their guns and shin plates and the handle on J's sword is fantastic. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's all good but those are the things that really popped out for me. My Rogue Necromancy was a nightmare. None of its legs matched up and all had to be carefully bent into better positions and I had to use a dremel to fix the connecting points on 2 of 3 heads. I love Wyrd, love them to bits, but some of their models are a bit aggravating.

QFT. That's why I prime, base, wash, done. I figure I'll try my hand at some fiction perhaps (I have a degree in creative writing and I think I'm not terrible) and, if I get enough praise to inflate my ego, I'll keep doing it. I also want to do a narrative bat-rep. I did one for 40K once and it was a hoot (although a bit rambling at 12 or so pages). Plus, if I find anyone from my local group on the forums, I'll give them bad advice on purpose

If my contribution to the Wyrd forums is providing the inspiration for the invention of Drunkenfaux...well, I guess I can live with that

After this coming weekend, they certainly will! Man, this is so going to level the playing field in my gaming group.

I was going to look into becoming a Henchman but the big problem is that my small town doesn't have a local gaming store to either a) purchase Malifaux stuff or and this is the big one, demo games and host events. My entire local gaming group (40K, board games, Malifaux, etc.) plays in one friend's attic and he lives 20 minutes out of town. If we can find a way to overcome that rather large obstacle, I'll definitely apply as I have two painted crews (Lady J and Seamus to boot, whom I hear are good demo crews). And I hope you're being humble about how good you are because I've heard Nix mention your year of the Guild/Ram on the Gamer's Lounge and I want you to show that Guild are awesome! Maybe I'll try my hand at some fiction. Maybe some "original" character set in the Malifaux universe so I feel less like I'm sleeping with someone's wife and instead just taking beer from their fridge.

Dustcrusher: Oh, I certainly won't get discouraged, from the forums or the game. I just want to be part of the community as opposed to an observer. Sadly, my biggest strength is writing (narrative battle reports and the like) but I don't know how I would feel writing with other people's characters (i.e. the masters). But maybe I'll try that? And I mean, I'm not actually terrible at the game (I win more than I lose, barely) but my painting is...well, it's just base and a wash. My group has many very talented painters (including one guy who I would put into a contest against anyone on the boards because he's amazing) so I just always compare to them and come out very, very lacking. Bruglyother: I have no converting or basing skills to speak of. Honestly, the hobby aspect of Malifaux doesn't really appeal to me. I've never been a real "work-with-your-hands" kind of guy so painting, converting, etc. are things I do out of necessity, not pleasure. So far, of my 81 posts, I'd say 60 of those have been questions or praise for other people's work so I'm doing that part just fine. I spent one night just browsing the miniature's showcase and complimenting people on their amazing work and asking how they achieved certain results. P.S. Also, I'm very, very wordy, as you can see. Is that a strength in any way?

Hola, Name's Ty and I'm a gamer from the Great White North of Vancouver Island, Canada. If you haven't heard of the island, we have a hockey team, riots when that hockey team doesn't win the Cup, syrup, bacon, the bathtub capital of the world and one day, you'll probably hear about us on the news when our island sinks into the ocean. Been lurking on these forums for about a year now and our local group (we don't actually have a FLGS, we just use one guy's attic) is up to about a dozen members. I love the community so far and the resources (Pull My Finger, Cheated Fates Radio, the Gamer's Lounge, etc.). But I also have an issue. You see, I want to be part of the community, I want to be active but I have a huge handicap for that. I'm really, really terrible at painting so I cannot contribute much in that aspect of the hobby and I'm really, really terrible at the game itself, so I cannot contribute much on the other side of the hobby. So, I'm at a loss. How does one contribute to the community (other than just asking a bazillion questions) if they have neither the artistic skill nor the tactical acumen to take part in conversations?

Ty is very, very pleased to have a new episode of Cheated Fates Radio. After years of looking for good podcasts and finding none, I recently encounter Cheated Fates Radio and Gamer's Lounge and now I'm absolutely hooked. It's like an addiction, only I get to keep my money and teeth.

I second that. Where's the Cheated Fates Radio love? That podcast is great.

Thank you, Demonn Agram! I am very pleased with how the blue turned out!

Alright, need some color theory help. Painting up my Lady crew with dark red coats and black pants...what color can I make the Judge's bandana that will work well with a crimson red and black? I don't want brown (belts and pouches) or yellow (his hair).

Thanks. I'm going to add that to the front page of the thread