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issue i see here, is the executioner is an amazing target for obey to be cast on, hits easily and very hard. Personally what i think is a decent combo is a ranged (i know you said you didn't have Ortega's, i just forgot the name of the one you have) like Nino next to a cheap model usually granny. And maybe team him up with something cheap and low dmg, cant think of examples here sorry, then he can only bash something of yours as you can make disengaging strikes after obey so hard to shoot with him for your opponent. The other comment i had was to kill lelu in one go rather than lilitu due to she does not regen 2 each turn after taking her 3 Dmg in the end phase. Hope it helps, but i do think vs that crew the ortegas would help you a lot, or Hans to ignore the fog off the stitched.

Without Nekima or the blood shaman, my understanding is growing is difficult. It requires your opponent to be using living models i think, which is why people always take the two desperate mercs with Nekima. Blood Shaman can help with the counters as well, i think. As far as models to go with other masters, I belive Lilith and her Nephilim go well with Zoraida in a grow list. Most of the things ive seen Zoraida take go with her and her alone. (not every model just most of them) Or her Dolls with Collodi Collodi works only with the dolls, and the only ones commonly used outside of his crew would be the stitched together. Pandora, i have not seen used, but i have read she likes the "twins" Lelu and Lilitu, the Stitched together, Insidious Madness. Not 100% on twins for her as there are not lots of WP duels they cause but they work together well. Dreamer Likes the same list as pandora in various situations, but for other reasons usually:) This is not the only models that mix together well, but the only ones i have seen/read being swapped around frequently between masters. Hope its of some use to you:)

I cant really be of much assistance in who there is for you to play in your area. But the way i got into this game, and Half of my gaming club who now play, is 1 person came in with a variety of painted crews having just found us and offered a lot of intro games, didn't get many games himself for the first month or two, but just let people try the game with extremely nicely painted crews, with choices for what to take for us. and now we have about 15 players in the club with crews 8 months later, i have 6 masters and a Henchman and likely getting another henchman shortly. So from that my point is, you don't need to find a club ages away that plays, if you can learn the game with your brother or a friend or two, and have two or three crews painted, you can introduce it yourself to a club you can go to that is well located for you:) (First game was colette vs perdita) and First Master was again colette so i can also recommend her, she is great fun:) Though if you do go for intro games, in my opinion, Lilith and Perdita are the best two crews for that, as they are relatively simple and polar opposites, and, from people using them, simple to use, though still have something to learn later on, and fun to use

Collette is a great crew to get, i had her as my first master, she has a play style that reminds me of Dark elves or maybe old wood elves if you played fantasy. Eg can not take the hits, but are fast, manuverable. She has some fun tricks for you, frustrating for your opponent if they forget one of them as you use it:) It does take a bit more to learn how things work with the crew, but worth learning. imo:)

Thanks for the Help guys If im following this right though, there should be little to no difference in my crew builds for vs machines/non counter dropping models as when i play a living /UD crew, and just take or two sacrificial models for early objective grabbing roles then later on provide a counter for something useful at the time, such as necro punks, and one or two canines for irritation purposes/counters would this be correct? And thanks again for the help

Im glad you said that Adrian:P I had for some reason got it into my head that i could not connect the grave spirit to Nico, no idea why:)

Current list im planning is: 2 Punk Zombies Morti 2/3 Canine Remains or maybe a totem, but of the two i ordered i cant see ether of them being especially useful this game, The vulture or Grave spirit. 25 stone game depends how many stones i go for. Playing a Brawl with Seamus who is taking: Punk Zombie 2 Belles 2 Crooked men Copy cat Killer Or at least they are the current plans until we know what we have to do there:)

I am going to play a first game with Nicodem at the weekend i think, and i am wondering what works with Nicodem when i am unable to get corps counters from my opponent? So summoning tricks are limited to my own models generating counters Any tips are appreciated:)

Ok they work fine this time, and looking great Dont know what was wrong:( (and yes i did try re opening the post earlier:P )

Dont know if its just me, but i cant see any of your pics?

Isn't it when a living/UD morel is Killed, and specifically not sacrificed if i remember from other posts? (don't have card, or books this week) but that's what i remember having been said. But as far as sacrificed, that's just the result of a models spell or ability.

Haha true, your club cant have it both ways, they accept both or none:)

No what i meant is it states in the fluff, everyone one who has used SS gets changed, not every caster in malifaux has access to or uses them so were by that logic not everyone is changed.

I know you stated it is your opinion, but just going to say i disagree with that as in the fluff it said that all the people/things in Malifaux with the ability to use Soul stones got transformed in the event. So i would predict it will just be coming out later on, but hope that Iggy is not part of Kaeris transformation if that does happen die to its to similar to Pandora.

He wasnt complaining he is asking if he can take advantage of everything the obeyed model has done to buff its self. So if the model has Activated, and used sublime performance, and Sword Dance, you are able to take advantage of both of those IF they last until the end of the turn rather than the end of the activation. On my cards it does not say when these effects last until so i assume its until some point in the end phase, so my guess would be you can. Use both of them. However you must declare a Move action not a strike action otherwise you cant move as well, or not so far:P

Ok just wanting to be sure of that as i could never figure out the advantage from the rule books, but that makes sense, thanks:)

Due to failing at reading rule books, i can not find how being Ht 1 is such a benefit? if im behind a Ht 1 wall, a ht 2+ model can still shoot me i just get cover if within 1" is my friends understanding, but can always be shot by someone taller than the wall. Basically, what i want to know is, if i hide a Ht1 model ether in B2B with a wall or other Ht 1 terrain feature or within 1" do ether of those put me out of Los to models not within 1" of that terrain feature on the other side? Im just trying to figure out how Ht 1 is such a big advantage as ive read many players saying in various posts.

Not an outcasts player, but from what ive seen generally all lists want to have 4x Mosquito never more, but 4 is the ideal number, im not sure why though as i said never looked at outcasts much myself yet.

Pop up on the forums here all the time as well, if you want to use them

The Lelu / Lilitu require being put where you want them, not forced out next to your crew:) But i also don't think they are as good as is claimed

Show girls vs hard to wound = tough, got to use speed and terrain very well. But i see no reason why it would act any differently vs the spell. But have no books with me this week.

Thanks, for some reason i couldn't find that

Ahh, missed this post when you put it up Geckilian, but i saw yours somewhere els eon the forums and just thought you had got the model to paint very early some how, this is the exact image i had of what she would look like, just had no idea how to make it, so went for the spider legs instead of the spider eyes. Just wish i was better with green stuff so i could have covered the gaps in the legs to make them look more biological rather than mechanical. Love the conversion And look forward to seeing yours Kegerator

Its not been spamming negative stuff for the sake of it, its that i have asked a question, and had no responses to let me pay you your asking prices. Ive had 2 prices for the things i wanted (some sold after you gave me the first price) but you have still not sent me a paypal address to send money to, so me being unable to do that for you, makes you unable to ship to me, and from what has been said, imply's im not the only one to have this issue. But on the same note i did see you saying you have responded to all PM's you had received, therefore implying you are not receiving them all.

If they were simple, then the game would be dull:) Having to figure out how to use and where to use the bigger models makes the game more interesting does it not? (Just giving a reason that i see for it (: )