Dj Noise

Its a bit crazy, In 40k, Fantasy, Hordes, Warmachines, Dystopian Wars, and Flames of War i have never had an issue that took more then 5minutes or less to solve. Take away the dice though and it breaks everyone's brain apparently.

Well then im not sure what is classified as an event, you could technically say everything is an event because anything occurring is an event. Its more of i read the forums to see ideas i haven't thought of then i try them and im told that that is not allowed so i wonder well if its considered a viable tactic what changed to make it allowed?

Pg 88 Special Events, talks about how events occur such as the first two, alone in the dark and cruel winds + the next page

Because Event is defined and it does not define the Phases as an event. Kind of how Things that Effect Walk do not effect Charge. realistically its just the same thing at different speeds. but they are defined as two different things. Alps if you walk within 1" of me doesn't hit models that charge within 1" of them because they Charged, not walked. different definitions.

From the link with the official ruling yes it does work, but as stated multiple times about my LGS, sense the book itself does not state that, they do not count it. forum ruling or not, its not in the book.

All that stats on P13 is they are buried with there buffs, it does not stat they are not effected by the resolves effect step. and just going by that alone with no additional ruling all that means is if somethings burred with say a terror buff then later brought back that turn it still has terror, but at the end phase, the buff goes away regardless if hes on the bored or not because the bury rule only stats unaffected by "Effects and Events" Phases are neither Effects or Events. Not sure if you read the whole post or not but think you missed the part where my LGS is hard set on not accepting forum rulings. and to the companion thing, sense my LGS is unacceptable of forum rulings sense the Dreamer and Chompy themselves do not have Companion you have to start with a Daydream which companions one of the two but has no way to companion another daydream in anyway.

OK found the 2nd one, this one i was technically right on, but the first time i attempted it was the day Nekima got cuddled and i failed to check the website that day so when i tried i was told i can no longer give Lilitu Auto Lure anymore because she was errata that morning. I thought it was oddly coincidental that once again i was being told i was wrong, then they backed it up and thought it was more coincidental that it just happened to happen the same day as i was going to try it. Nekima Gives Lilitu a free mask and as long as she gets 4 to cast it goes off and auto triggers double take. So i missed out on that fun. Still have a feeling it wasn't just bad timing on my part though, my LGS is pretty sneaky... So that was more of Lil and Nek combo then Dreamer though.

Sidenote, just checked the original guide the dreamer i read and its by a Karn987 heh, downloaded in from a Tabletopgreeks website. Although it does seam a bit out of date because it stats you can keep Stitched Together alive forever by burying them after Does not Die Trigger.

The First one was with burring models with spells/abilities active. Example was you have our Nightmares cast there buffs such as Insidious Madness's Aura or Alps Aura and Dreamers Nightmare Terror 13, Bury everything, end your turn and then turn 2 or 3 bring everyone into play fully buffed and still having full activation. I was then told models buried are still effected by flow of time and phases so even buried, the buffs would fade. I won 2 weeks later with a response from a RM. The Second was... i have to look up the details again and ill get back to that. The Third was the whole multi companion thing so when i went to take my turn i activated the dreamer, went to companion the daydreams and told he doesn't have companion so i cant do that Chompy jump attempt ended Activation 1 Turn 1 for me because i just gave up after 20 minutes and went on to watch Chompy take on 4 Gobos to win the game after 2Alps, 2 Daydreams, Lelu, Lithue, and 2 Stiches died. The Dreamer was still alive but i figured at this point with 6SS left just see what happens and as the pre mention 2 failed Terrors went 8 wounds healed via eatting, Chompy fought like a Champ. Still looking for the 2nd Strat i read but can go with this while i find it And Strat 3 i tried just like 10 hours ago.

No, we have the little hand books. At first i just accepted they rulings on it being new to the game, i figured they should know more right? Then after reading 3 Dreamer strategies and trying to do them and being told that illegal i started investigating thinking well if it is an actual allowed strategy it has to work some how or it would of been corrected by responses basic logic i thought, and now im here, having this convo at how my LGS is crazy, but I've never had this issue in the 6 other table top games I've played. I sure it will all be flushed out in time, just have to wait for that game to come.

I guess its more of sense there is not a officall link or page for this stuff like GW or other games have and its just forums, they don't keep up with the forums posts and search for Wyrd rulings on thing, its pretty much if it is NOT in the main rule book it is not legit, sense the MRB does not say in short " Companions a two way street" and sense they define it differently then Tiny just did, it does not work. Same with Bury, reading the MRB only i get no suggestion buried models are not effected by phases for spells and such, just "events and Effects" Specifically as its stated, so until i got a RM and showed them i was told that is wrong.

I do understand it is allot of work, and it takes time, its just hard to get correct answer and i have authenticate and actually use. In my last four games I've been told that a strategy i tried that i heard about was illegal and i had no way of backing it up except with " Thats what they say on the forums" and the response i always get is that's not official or they are wrong or that is there opinion. I understand there point of view though even if its frustrating, i mean if a random person just walks up to me and says like that's a 100 dollar fine for littering ( not that i litter, just an example ) i'd probably tell them to bugger off, but if a police officer walked up to me and said the same thing well... guess im out 100 dollars. I have read allot of the wiki also and tried that and its pretty much the same response except for the few things Wyrd themselves have said, such as the Alp rule, they accept that because the Wyrd site says it. Its pretty much if i cant get an actual Wyrd authorized person to give me a hand written note then its not accepted at my LGS and its just making it more frustrating every game i play. although even without being able to do the multi companion trick my last game was allot of fun, it ended with Chompy vs 4 Gobos which 2 of failed terror and with some massive biting and clawing regening Chompy wiped them out. I know im ranting and im sorry for that, posted this mostly i wanted a definite answer which it appears you have provided which i thank you much for, and a small part just needed to vent and see if anyone els is having all the same issues im having or if my LGS is just BSB.

Thats not how i was told it worked, was told by corresponding characteristic was like the companion family one where its not listing a model, its listing a stat. If it said Companion Nightmare, but all it says is Companion The Dreamer/Chompy nothing saying something like /models with this companion or /daydreams specifically. So sorry Tiny, i do not thing that covers other daydreams.

So why can they not just release an actual FAQ/Errata? This forum rule system is all just confusing. Rules are titled under inaccurate or just non helpful titles making searching difficult, they then just get pushed down the pages by newer posts making them harder to find, and most of the answer are by just other players which even if they are right, trying to win an argument on rules because "That guy" said it works is as easy as trying to clap your hands while doing a hand stand with your hands are tied behind your back after having your hands amputated... ( i'd keep going but im tired of saying hands... ) Was like the issue i had with buried few weeks ago, i got 9 or 10 people saying yes that works that way but no one at my LGS accepted it until a Rules Marshal said Yes that is exactly how it works. So yes you may be right and justified via Rules Marshals or something, but with no authorized power especially when the main rule book itself says your wrong and no other reference point to look at... how is this helpful?

So i've been reading about how Chompy can cross the bored, hit a model once or twice then leave, specially in the recent like 18page post on changing the dreamer that recently calmed down, but back to the topic. How does this even work? i was reading how Companion works and it is perfectly defined in the book and there is no way that combat stratagy works... T1 you Activate a Daydream and companion the Dreamer, move them up and do the swap trick to get the Dreamer 13ish inches up the bored, he then goes and flies to get 20, Summons Chompy and he gets his 1-2 attacks depending on distance and thats as far as it goes. Even if Chompy's 0 Action a Daydream, that Daydream could not get him back across the bored. Chompy can't companion a Daydream because he does not have the Companion rule himself The Dreamer can't Companion 2 Daydreams because he himself does not have Companion and theres no way to get a full activation on a 2nd or even the required 3rd Daydream to get Chompy or the Dreamer out of there... Did They change how Companion works? Was there an Errate? Going by the main rule book this is just out right cheating... Really wish Wyrd had an official FAQ/Errata section...