TimH Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 So I picked up some additional Neverborn models with the intent of playing a Zoraida/Collodi list and when my EBO models arrive a Pandora list. Now looking over the cards for the models I picked up a thought occurred to me. Why not have the doppleganger mimic unhealthy relationship? I checked the rules and as far as I can tell there is nothing preventing this, Unhealthy relationship doesn't refrence Pandora by name and it is a talent so it is legal. The doppleganger's ability isn't a spell so it wont be giving mimicked abilities to other woes but it does allow adjacent woes to use the mimics own 0 actions... So the obvious next step of this idea would be to take 3 or 4 sorrows to be able to spam mimic or to take already powerful woes (Lilitu pair or perhaps Mr Tannen) and make them able to steal other aspects to compliment their existing powers. So the big question. If you were running a Doppleganger to mimic unhealthy relationship, what would you do next? Stick flurry on Lelu? Give Mature Nephillim claws to a group of Sorrows? Stick eternal on Lilitu? Stick the box opens on some sorrows to cover even larger areas? Or something else all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychocamel Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Getting Pandora's Emotional Trauma is the standard, but it's more of a pure evil NPE move than something crazy/fun like some of your suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTDemon777 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 if u want crazy, it might be possible to give grow/mature if you have blood counters for some reason. Teddy's "The Thing of Nightmares" spell would also be good for more ranged DEF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimH Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 NPE? Not familiar with that acronym. Grow/mature don't work as they refrence a model by name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTDemon777 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 oh, right, i forgot the last bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarsnick Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 NPE? Not familiar with that acronym. Grow/mature don't work as they refrence a model by name. Negative Play Experience. It's a term that is getting out of hand, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTDemon777 Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 well on the simpler side, u can give Kade's backstab to......Lelu (thats the melee one right?) and doldrums to pandora or someone with a better CA than 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychocamel Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Negative Play Experience. It's a term that is getting out of hand, imo. Agreed, I'm just extra grumpy about it because I got smashed into itty bits with it last night >< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Jack* Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Negative Play Experience. It's a term that is getting out of hand, imo. Agreed, I'm just extra grumpy about it because I got smashed into itty bits with it last night >< Well, I've been seeing it more and more around the forums, but I think its a good summary of playing vs pandora. She dictates the entire game. Forcing negative flips, stopping your opponent from cheating, then stitched hitting them for 3/4/7 damage is brutal, and there's nothing they can do about it. Even getting on initiative if they have the doppleganger. I played a player who was learning with what I thought was a "Soft" pandora crew, mainly using models I've never played before, and it was ridiculous. I ended the game turn 2 and we re-started with me using my arcanists instead. I can't apply the same term to hamelin however. I can see how he's a pain to play against, but the only experience I have against him was against a fun opponent, and I was using pandora, so had my own NPE thing going on :') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateful Darkblack Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 What I'd do with Doppelganger and Unhealthy Relationship: have Mr. Tannen (0) Link to Pandora. All aboard the debuff train! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekboy Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Something I got to pull off a while ago against an Ortega crew that compainioned everyone together first activation, leaving me to activate everyone else. Doppleganger activates, copying pandora's Emotional Trauma and Unhealthy Relationship. Candy, Kade and a group of Sorrows activate, all runing over to the doppelganger and copying emotional trauma. Now for Candy (who I activate last out of the woes) and Pandora, any failed WP test from their spells results in 7 wounds to the enemy. Killed Perdita, Santiago and Abuela. Not exactly something you can reliably use, but pretty funny at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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