Disengaging strikes and engagment

[SgtBrowncoat]

I swear I saw a discussion on this somewhere, but don't see it anymore. Seems to be a lot of division on this one and we would be grateful for some help and understanding:

If a model begins it's activation outside of engagement and uses a single move action to pass through and out the other side of an enemy model's engagement range, would the enemy get a disengaging strike?

[YourGitFacedCousin]

No, there's no disengaging strike unless a model begins its move in the engagement range and is attempting to end its move outside of the engagement range. One thing to keep an eye on however, is that there is no 'double move' action. In a situation you've described above, if the model is using both action points to move, ensure that each walk action is resolved separately.

[Fetid Strumpet]

No. 

That is how it used to work in 1.5. It no longer a functions as such.

A disengaging strike only occurs when a model, within the engagement range of an enemy model, declares a walk action that will remove the model from the enemy's engagement range. The disengaging strike can then be taken, and if successful, the declared action is cancelled and the Ap wasted.

The practical upshot of this is that if you have a fast enough wk stat, you can enter and leave as many enemy engagement ranges as you want, without triggering any disengaging strikes. It also means that if you are engaged by an enemy model you may reposition freely via the walk action within their engagement range, as long as you never leave it. When you activate and declare the walk action you must state the. And there whether the action will result in leaving the engagement range. You cannot change your mind later because the strike happens at the moment you declare the wk action, not when you would actually leave the engagement range.

Does that help?

[SgtBrowncoat]

3 hours ago, Fetid Strumpet said:

No. 

That is how it used to work in 1.5. It no longer a functions as such.

A disengaging strike only occurs when a model, within the engagement range of an enemy model, declares a walk action that will remove the model from the enemy's engagement range. The disengaging strike can then be taken, and if successful, the declared action is cancelled and the Ap wasted.

The practical upshot of this is that if you have a fast enough wk stat, you can enter and leave as many enemy engagement ranges as you want, without triggering any disengaging strikes. It also means that if you are engaged by an enemy model you may reposition freely via the walk action within their engagement range, as long as you never leave it. When you activate and declare the walk action you must state the. And there whether the action will result in leaving the engagement range. You cannot change your mind later because the strike happens at the moment you declare the wk action, not when you would actually leave the engagement range.

Does that help?

It does! Thank you!

3 hours ago, YourGitFacedCousin said:

No, there's no disengaging strike unless a model begins its move in the engagement range and is attempting to end its move outside of the engagement range. One thing to keep an eye on however, is that there is no 'double move' action. In a situation you've described above, if the model is using both action points to move, ensure that each walk action is resolved separately.

Thank you!