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When a model is reduced to 0 wounds does it become killed right then and there. Or is it when the model is physically removed from the table does it count as killed?

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Collette's death defying trigger Has no verbiage similar to Hamelin or Levi.

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Obedient Wretch: The text of the Stink of Death Trigger is now: After damaging and determining whether the target was killed, if the target is still in play, summon a Malifaux Rat into base contact with the target.

This trigger sstill is wonky. If it's just reduced to 0 wounds and killed its still not removed Untill after the trigger is resolved in which no matter what you get a rat.

But if by determining if it's killed you mean removed from the game then it works but slightly confusing.

Stink of death: After Damaging if the target has 1 or more wounds remaining summon a malifaux rat into base contact.

Now this is much clearer but you might run into an odd scenario with Collette she uses death defying and is placed elsewhere and a rat pops up next to her. But besides that I don't see how it would adversely effect any other triggers.

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Oh I don't play it any of the ways I have posted about. I know how they should work and play it as such.

If the OB kills a model no rat. I understand that is how it should work. I understand that Collodi should not make dead models dance. I completely understand that Collette should not be killed if she triggers death defying from non insta-kill triggers.

I guess my ocd sees the poorly worded. ..words and wants it to be right. Clear and concise so no one can debate it. Mainly cause I love the game.

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I'm only confused about the obedient Wretch. 

Previously:
Stink of Death: After damaging, if the target is still in play, summon a Malifaux Rat into base contact with the target.

 

Errata:
Stink of Death: After damaging and determining whether the target was killed, if the target is still in play, summon a Malifaux Rat into base contact with the target.

These are not functionally different within the rules. You still get the rat with both wordings even if the model is killed. 

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Oh I don't play it any of the ways I have posted about. I know how they should work and play it as such.

If the OB kills a model no rat. I understand that is how it should work. I understand that Collodi should not make dead models dance. I completely understand that Collette should not be killed if she triggers death defying from non insta-kill triggers.

I guess my ocd sees the poorly worded. ..words and wants it to be right. Clear and concise so no one can debate it. Mainly cause I love the game.

 

It is appreciated. :)

 

I just have to walk the fine line of...correcting too much.

 

There does come a point when too much errata/FAQ/etc drives people away. There also comes a point where re-explaining things people were doing correctly in the first place makes them stop and think they had been doing it wrong.

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