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The piece of paper is entirely inanimate so it's a really bad comparison.

Why is it an horrible concept? It's an observation of reality (or asking for one if you prefer). While gaming is part of society it's not all of it. Key word being part. If you're sick and you've got a fever, there's no point in focusing on the fact that you're filling cold. It's a symptom, your flu is the problem. Same here. We can sooth the symptom of sexism that pop up here and there, but if you want to "fix" the problem you are most definitly looking in the wrong place. I guess what I'm trying to say is: I don't believe our culture or "subculture" is sexist.

This. A million time.

I'll be happy to. If we, as gamers, happen to be less sexist, or as sexist, then the average person then we don't really have a problem with sexism in gaming. We have a problem with sexism in society. On the other hand if we do happen to be more sexist thensociety at large then I would agree that we do have a problem with sexsm in gaming. I just happen to think that demonizing a group that would be better then the rest is a good way to antagonize them as well a push them away from you cause. About affirmative action. You are wrong. I'm sorry but you are. As I said before, there are affirmative action in place in the STEM fields. There is also a study that shows that women are favored for a job in STEM's when compared to a man with the same qualifications. Gringos and Cracker do exist as derogatory terms Look up #killallmen no need for laws it's already fine to hate white men. And as for the last one... Look up Tim hunt, dunglegate, shirtgate, etc.

Alright quite a lot going on and I don't want to derail too much. Also I suck at multi quoting so my apologies in advance About being envious of women. Yes in some part I am. I've been looking for work for over a year in my field and everytime I apply for a job I see that part asking me if im disabled or a minority. This part is there only to discriminate against me. It's even said plainly in the form. This is unacceptable and I wouldn't stand for it, if it was the other way around. Also those quotas don't mean that there's a imbalance and it corrects it. It means that at some point there was a perceived imbalance and the mesure put in place are still there. Should it matter if the sexism in the gaming community is more or less prevalent then in the rest of the world? yes. We're discussing the gaming community. We have an impact on our community. If you want to change the world, go for it, but I don't believe the gaming community is by any way the good place to start this "revolution". We can fight sexism in our ranks but, unless we screen new player, someone racist or sexist can always enter our community. This means that even if you could change everyone's mindset, it would only take a couple of new player who are sexist to destroy your perfect score. This is why we do our best but hoping for a community exempt of sexism is an Utopia in our society. Being realistic is important if you wanna achieve anything,

Being a white male I don't have access to the same financing for studies, I run the risk of being passed for a job because of quota's, a study shows thatwomen are twice aslikely to be hired in STEM then men, should my spouse start beating me up I have virtually no shelter that will accept me nor would people step up to help me if she did it in public. And I could go on. That looks like a lot of extra shoit piled on to me. the point being, life can be shit for anyone and we're not participating in the oppression Olympics. We need to look at people like individuals. About the subject at hand. I think it would be beneficial to make sure we're all talking about the same thing exactly. Are there sexist, racist or homophobic people in gaming? There are in real life so it's safe to assume that some of those end up in the gaming community. Are there more or less of those people in gaming then in society at large and are they more tolerated? That's the question that's worth discussing in my opinion