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  1. Ok I asked on some Discords and I get different interpretations. So...

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    Can we leave engagment with this ability?

    Someone say no because the Place is part of the move of walk action.

    others say yes, because it's just the “moves up to its Movement” that prohibits leaving an engagement zone, not the ability, which is a different movement.

     

    it's difficulte.. a gray zone of the rules.

     

  2. yep it's our opposition, we're at least agree on that. ^^

    For the Talos, I disagree with you. As you said, it's not a rule but an effet, so the effect is, at the start of the target's activation, the Talos player unburries the target of an ennemy model of the Talos. Because cards are written with the point of view of the model.

    and really, what do we do if the Talos dies? The rule says that you have to choose one of your models with unresolved effects. What do we do if a model is removed from the game? Does the model remain in the void?

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  3. 18 minutes ago, le_wahou said:

    Ser Vantes does not gains a new rule. He is the target of an effect that will happen later. The unburry is still controlled by player 2.

    The rule for simultaneous does not ask to check if the effect affects an active or passive model. it asks to take every models of active player with effects to be resolved, resolve all of these effects model by model, and then make the same for the passive player. An effect of a model of the active player that targets a model of the passive player is still an effect of the model of the active player. In my understanding, the unbury of Ser Vantes is an effect of the Death Marshall who buried him. It is controlled by the passive player and happens after the effects of the active player.

    I misspoke (I shouldn't have written on the tram). I used the word "rule", I should have used "effect".

    Sir Vantès gains an effect yes. An effect controlled by player 2. But it's Sir Vantes who has the effect. So it gets to stage 1.

    If we replace with Into the Furnace (so Talos is the attacker). If Talos dies before Sir Vantès activates, how do we proceed? Player 2 can't choose a model that's no longer in the game. 

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  4. I think there's some confusion.
    From what I understand...
    Let's say player 1 is bayou, player 2 his opponent. The unburry effect of pine box, into the furnace or Glimpse the void (for example), is generated by player 2 at the moment of the attack. In other words, Sir Vantés wins a new rule explaining how to unburry. And who controls the unburry (since the rules are written from the card owner's point of view)?
    But it's an effect that affects Sir Vantés. So step 1 of the simultaneous effects rules.

     

  5. 1 minute ago, Moinetbeard said:

    if the death marshall is killed whilst Ser Vantes is still buried he is unburied into base contact with the death marshall before it is removed from the table.

    True, but same question with glimpse the void. When the model with the trigger is killed, it changes nothing for the burried model. Or "into the furnace".

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  6. Hello

    I have two questions. Let's imagine Sir Vantès not far from Candy. He activates himself and uses "On the move" to get out of Candy's aura. Does Corrupted Innocence activate?

    Let's say now (yes, let's be cruel to this gremlin) that he's buried by a Pine box from a Death Marshall.
    When it activates, it's the bayou player who determines whether the unburry takes place before or after the one the move?

  7. On 4/26/2023 at 8:41 PM, dzlier said:

    I will take a look this weekend. This was working at one point so I must have reverted something.

    Have you found? Still 1.7.7 on Android but 1.7.8 on web app.

  8. An Idea I used on Vassal (but I didn't play a lot so..)

    Euripides in a center of a bubble.

    1 a model take damage to gain a Rune token (for example with the old way). And if this model has frozen Vigor, finish the Activation near a ice pillar or a katlegist to heal the model.
    2 Active another model in the bubble, do a duel with the old way. Use hepatomancy to look the opposed player cards and discard good ones. Euripides will gain a rune token. And if this model has frozen Vigor, finish the Activation near a ice pillar or a katlegist to heal the model... again.
    3 Repeat.

     

    With single duel, you can discards a lot of good opponent cards.

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  9. I created a game on a Android

    1.6.24

    My opponent is in webapp

    1.6.22

     

    And we don't see the same encounter

    Both when we leave the game don't see it in the list...

    BUT my opponent leave and come back in the game and don't see the same encounter again...

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    EDIT : and when I come back I can't do anything.... like the first screen but without the choose faction

  10. On 8/9/2022 at 8:05 PM, santaclaws01 said:

    The Siphon Power elects a model to suffer damage. That model chooses to suffer damage or not. You can't force your opponent to choose your model to use siphon power on.

    I understood.

    On 8/9/2022 at 8:05 PM, santaclaws01 said:

    There's a different reason it can't be used to score hidden martyrs, models can't choose to suffer damage that would kill themselves. A 1 health model would never be allowed to choose to suffer damage from siphon power.

    True, I forget that. thanks.

  11. 17 hours ago, santaclaws01 said:

    No. You cannot force your opponent to choose your model to siphon power on.

    I have a problem with this answer.
    Above I'm told that it's a friendly model that chooses to take damage and that's why you can't do it on a parasited model.

    When Nexus uses citizens of Malifaux centered on herself, ok no worries, it can tell itself that the parasited model is not friendly. Ok. But when she uses exoskeletal connection, Will of Cadmus or her omnipresential influence on a parasited model...
    Either it's Nexus who chooses who suffers damage to Syphon Power (and it works on parasited models)
    Or it is a friendly model who chooses and in this case if Nexus doesn't choose one, it is the opposite player who can say that one of his parasited miniature suffers a damage (rules of simmultaneous effect)... and thus serve for hidden martyrs, but in this case Nexus can't refuse (or then where is the point of rules?).

     

    I'm aware it's a tricky point but it's could change things.

  12. 14 minutes ago, santaclaws01 said:

    Are you asking if Nexus's opponent can force the Nexus player to choose one of their parasited models for the Nexus player to use siphon power on?

    yes.

    In general or in the specific case when the parasited model is the target of an action with the restriction "friendly cadmus" model.

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