graeme27uk

1) Would the Arcane Effigy be useful for Raspi? I am guessing it would as it would be able to stay near her most of the time. 2) In a crew, how much of an auto-include is Snow Storm? 3) Is it always worth taking both Silent Ones? 4) The Blessed of December.... is this worth the fairly high cost, also being unique? 5) I see/read that the Ice Golem is fairly redundant. Is this really the case or does it have its uses? 6) Does Raspi work well with non-December minions? I am thinking of things like Gunsmiths, etc that emphasise her ranged combat. 7) How good is Raspi vs spirits - i assume fairly good as her attacks are magical.

If I were to start playing Hamelin would I start losing friends? :1_Happy_Puppet1: No one else in our group has him, though from what I have read and what I hear he is about as much fun as Pandora for others to play against. So if I did get him, would I be just ruining games for other people? What about Hamelin's avatar? Is that also considered too nasty to play?

Love the miniatures so far! Hope they keep coming. Don't suppose you could let us in on what other plans you have for models / concepts. You know what us gamers are like... hungry for more, MORE MORE! Will there be: Captain Nemo - piratical sea scourge - maybe like in PotC he has power over a beasty Kraken Alan Quartermain - gun expert / hunter - could hunt humans for sport as a twisted.... twist Dorian Grey

Hm, so like one could have guessed, really there was no concensus. I'm not a resser player, just looking at the game mechanics. It does seem odd that a defensive ability makes you potentially more likely to suffer worse. I don't think that was the rules as intended, otherwise there would be something similar for the Black Joker surely? Would it really make the game less fun? You would still have randomness and you would still have the fact that Jokers can cause havoc, either way.

Sorry, must have missed it. Without trawling, any idea of what it was called? What was the outcome?

Isn't this a bit of a contradictory ruling? Flipping more cards means you are more likely to draw the Red Joker even on a negative flip, taking that card, causing more damage, etc... Would it not be simple to fix this by just saying that on a negative flip you have to always take the lowest card even if one of them is the Red Joker. Just as you have to take the Black Joker.

Yeh, the companion sounds like it should be good, but I think its also as much of a trap to those unwary players. Especially if it doesn't go as planned..

I am considering getting Perdita as my next main master. Any considerations, tips, hints, opinions, etc that would be useful in me getting her crew and playing effectively in a generic sense? What is her avatar like compared to "non-avatar" Perdita?

Just pondering this possibilty, though I doubt its possible. Killjoy gives models the (1) Sacrifice action to get him in play. However, when Zoraida "Obeys" a target, do they get the Sacrifice action as well? If so then can Zoraida use "Obey" to get an enemy target to sacrifice itself to bring Killjoy out to play? I am guessing that this is not possible.... fun as it might sound.

Von Schill does look a bit like someone in Wyrd got a bit "free" with the special rules with him. He's got pretty much everything you could need for a given situation, even if they are not undead. I don't like his miniature nor his Freikorps miniatures so I may have to proxy them, but generally I am having issues finding reasons not to take him in most lists.

So how would Zoraida fair with all 5 effigies then or is just a gimick list?

Are all the effigies worth it though?

So can Zoraida.... 1) Target aSeamus with Hex? Does he not still count as a master? 2) Target aSeamus with Obey? (as above) Do avatars no longer count as a Master then? If so then that would open up all sorts of nasty possibilities that are making me chuckle...

What if you don't have ranged attacks.... Collodi's dolls are good but no ranged hitters apart from Stitched which are limited in mobility. In fact.... Zoraida doesn't have many ranged options....

Played vs Seamus Avatar with Zoraida/Collodi. Narrow draw. Was going really well until Avatar Seamus popped... in amongst a big mob of marionettes/wicked dolls... i kept failing the Terrifying check, running way and getting wicked striked to death... So how do you get rid of the big boy? Stitched seemed pretty good, almost killed him with one stitched..... gambling your life!

So do effigies have to be within a certain distance to have their advantages bestowed upon their Master? Sorry. but I don't have the effigy rules... only PMF to go on.

Is there anywhere I can get the rules for the Effigies apart from the cards and the 3rd book?

So are they all worth the ss though?

So are you saying that Killjoy is worth the points cost? The "Twins"... yeh get almost auto-include status in any bigger NB list it seems. I would have thought that Wyrd would want to avoid auto-include models. Would you say Killjoy would be a better choice for an "obey hammer" than the Mature Neph and/or Teddy? Though Teddy would need to have the Insidious Madness to remove I2I and then have that Hex'd off.... So can you use a Wicked Doll summoned via Zoraida to get KIlljoy out? So can it go: Collodi moves to where you want Killjoy Sacrifice wicked doll near collodi bring out Killjoy Killjoy activates Zoraida activates summons replacemen wicked doll wicked doll placed near Collodi to replace sac'd one Zoraida then uses Hex on Killjoy to remove out of control Zoraida uses Obey on Killjoy Could potentially also use Obey from Voodoo Doll on Killjoy

Would Killjoy be worth the 12ss cost though? Or is there a better option for those points.... A mature Neph for example, or Bad Juju? Or Teddy?

Does Killjoy cost 12ss when used with Zoraida? Would you consider him a good buy? Hexing off "Out of Control" when he is summoned... good idea? Best/cheapest way of getting him in? Desperate Mercenary? Good target for "Obey"? What do you think?

Pullmyfinger is great, and I've read through most of the stuff there. But first hand experience is always better. Thanks to those who have posted.

Which two would be best though?

Ordered the Ophelia box set as I like those Gremlins, however, as I also have Zoraida how would Team O play with Zoraida instead of Ophelia?

Anyone have any tips on using Coppelius, ideally alongside Zoraida (as thats the master I have). I've not yet played him but ordered him and some Alps as I like their models.