Silveri

Now who's making accusations here? Yes, the stereotypes were rash and I wanted to find out why they didn't fit. Perhaps I could have phrased myself better, and I originally meant to intend to add a phrase where (if such a division were possible), the latter would think the first as childish brats and the first the latter as uptight snobs. I didn't feel that to be a necessary add-on. I'm primarily interested why you take this so personally? Does the description fit and you don't like what it implies (again, these are your interpretations, not mine - there's nothing wrong in liking big breasts and macho heroes)? I personally noted a polarization and wanted to see whether there is a correlation.

Did you actually read my post before making that accusation? I'm more than happy to have that theory debunked. Please, if you feel you don't fit the theorem, tell why. The current trend seems to be that people who criticize the hypertrophied sexual characteristics in miniatures tend to prefer the "lesser heroes", but there's not as much support for the idea of people preferring masculine heroes not really minding having miniatures that are cheesecake instead of "realistic" proportions and equipment (given the setting). .. Plus, I really need to emphasise this, as people continually tend to misread me. I originally did not say that big boobs were unrealistic or overexpressed, more that the big boobed minis looked like they had implants instead of naturally big breasts.

No Rincewind for you then.

This is just a theory I created based on the strong polarization I've seen in threads where fantasy vs. realism meet (not just regarding breasts). I'm more interested in whether I get support for it or against it and I'm interested in whether most players (something like 75%) could be roughly categorized this way. Probably no-one is purely of either variety. Trust me, I do hope I'm wrong on this, but if I'm right, it perhaps could help us understand each other more. As I'm personally more of the latter type (for instance, I don't have a huge superhero comic book collection and I've never read the Conan books), I sometimes have trouble understanding the people who are more of the former type. If the kicks we get out of miniature wargaming are different, no wonder we have trouble understanding each other.

There seems to be a curious trend growing here of polarity between players, both male AND female. There are those who assume that all players here like playing with macho men and big-boobed women, and those (an apparent minority) who complain about the lack of depth and common sense in those stereotypes. It's really not an age question either. I'll ask you a question. If you are the player of the first type (the assumed majority), do you prefer playing powerful heroes who can overcome all the odds they are facing by sheer power (be that strength, magic, intelligence), or do you prefer playing "lesser heroes", that were thrusted with a job probably way too difficult for them (and what they probably would prefer to be without) but what they have to do since there's no-one else to do it? If of the minority, do you prefer the latter hero archetype more? Is this more a conflict of player personalities than of attitudes towards boobs?

Okay. I'll try to phrase this without sounding impolite. If your girlfriend has a comparable body structure to the miniatures mentioned here, I will admit my error.

Agreed. I never meant to question that. It's part of the goddamn appeal. Yes, they form a bulge, but not a deep crease at the top especially like the one in Pandora alt. paintjob. I again suggest trying this out with a live pair of big breasts. Actually, they most likely would have had a tight-fitting corset that covers and supports also the breasts. For reference, check out BBC:s version of Pride and Prejudice. But this is nitpicking. I never complained about the corsets.

From a viewpoint that many Wyrd's female miniatures are sculpted and/or painted to look like they have breast implants (instead of just having naturally big breasts) to discussion of sexual undertones in virtually every marketable media... Should have guessed that this would be the direction where things would be headed. But to add an insult to injury, I would like to ask whether you feel that do female miniatures that aren't picture perfect have that much character in them? Can Perdita be even compared to Abuela? Frankly, when I think about it, Perdita and Justice (and most of the female Masters) don't differ that much as characters (although ruleswise they do) and seem a bit shallow. Then think about Hoffman, Zoraida, Seamus and the rest who are not pretty girls with big tits (the only exception that springs into mind is Colette). Sure, there are also shallow male characters (such as Marcus, given the lack of his fluff), but I feel that most of the female masters could be summed up to a single sentence. Plus, anybody that thinks that Molly is fat should be slapped around a bit with a Trout of Common Sense.

For reference images, I suggest watching Julie Bell's artwork. Those women certainly have big breasts, but don't look that much like they are surgically enhanced. One can have fantasy images with big tits without having them look like they've been under the surgeon's blade.

The crack between the breasts is natural, but the crease on top of the breasts isn't. I'd recommend you to do some empiric research on the issue with a live pair, but speculating further on the issue is a path way too awkward for me to continue on. (short explanation for the rest of you nosy buggers: I'm rather familiar with Math and his wife) Nothing wrong with it. Not painting the crease helps a lot. As an additional experiment, take the image of the mini into GIMP or somesuch and tone down the highlights on the top of the breasts near the (non-painted) shadow above the breasts (it's bloody difficult to explain in exact terms - "near the ceiling of the breast") to alleviate the slight remaining beach ball effect a bit and tell me how it affects the result.

The point is that putting a shadow on the top of the breasts makes them look like a couple of sacks of gel. The shadow does not occur naturally and big breasts aren't "perky" by default (although supporting corsets and brasierres help with the... erm.. effect). What makes people assume that the shadow on top of the breasts is something that "should" be there, is frankly due to the popularity of implants in Hollywood movies (both the regular kind and pornography). It's not. It's the top of the implant. Again, making the breasts look like they're fake bothers me. I'm not against big boobs (actually, I kinda prefer 'em).

Now, this may not be as irritating to others as it is to me, but I grow increasingly frustrated how female breasts are more often than not sculpted in females. What I mean that most of them look like they've had a 1/2-1 gallon silicone implants put on them. Now, I'm not saying that I dislike big breasts or breast implants on general, but given the timeframe where the events of the game takes place, it's "historically" incorrect to have silicone boobies there. Of course, Wyrd isn't the only company to suffer from the phenomenon and perhaps I'm just pointing out something that most would find to be irrelevant, but here are a couple of reference images (probably semi-SFW). Natural cleavage Silicone breasts And to drive the point home: Pandora alternative Perdita alternative Again, this may not bother the rest of you, but I'd just like to point this out. Perhaps it's just a matter of painting.

Math, I dare you to convert the hat of avatar-Seamus to match the size of the original one.

Hmm, that could work... of course, it would mean that Marcus would have a handy forest available and positioned well so as to be of use.

Evasive doesn't help with pulses, or have I understood something wrong?