tadaka

I think she and molly will get back burner for a bit until book 3 comes out and they have options to go with them.

Bah hoffman first. He is the only guild master worth a darn we needs him now.(Mostly just because I want his constructs for levi)

Mind giving us some back ground I so have no idea what this is about.

I will be sure to post but it will be a wile. Few months at least untill I can get the lost love as king. Still need a few more parts but those are all available just need to get them finished painting. Went with those masters as they were one of the few I actualy wanted 8 of some models.

All ready working on my levi vs kirai set

I all ways find it entertaining how often we get a odd number of rare and and even number of models or the other way around. I have sceen a few rumors that some of the rare numbers are changing so that may fix some of the cases of odd numbering. I am betting levi wont get to use that 3rd waif tho

That would be going off the idea they are correct and the list is 100%.

Hum would be a bit odd to not give him a stolen. Would be like giving levi no waif at all in the box.

Sounds like a valid box to me. One master, One model you can only take one of and a few rank and file troops.

I think wyrd has all ready gone with a little of both. Levi took a couple needed nurfs to knock him down a little and some of the masters who were on the low side of things got some new toys to help bring them up to speed.

I like complicated thats why I play levi As far as limited turns goes being as most guild crews are at most 8 models at a 30 point game. Thining out a couple the first turn could prove very potent. Depending on the mission of the game of corse that changes how everything works just thinking up battle plans for missions where killing off a few models from relative safety is a good plan.

Looking at faceing a guild list in an upcomeing game. Given current playlists I will probably be faceing a 30ss perdita crew mostly just ortegas and guild austringers. Thinking of trying the hooded rider, dead rider and alice. Idea being Hooded rider cant be targeted with range attacks and If I run the other player out of activations I can give the dead rider reactivate take 2 wounds so he starts fast and hopefully ride out and pick off models dragging them back to become spa fodder for levi. As long as I can get far enough away with dead rider I can give him 3 wounds back after alice takes him to 1. Any one ever try this tactic or have any insight that may help?

Double post sorry.

Intresting 3rd grimlin master. I think it would be cool to see green take on all of the master. Hum Zorada just so we can have a saggy boob version. It would have to be a male we will call him Bob.

Doh not Ham boy. Hoffman come on wyrd prove that site wrong

Sure sign he is about right.

I understand this but that's kind of my whole point. I don't think lady J is underpowered but some of the other masters are a little 2 good atm. If you look at lady j minus the few masters who are at the top of the heap Levi, perdita, lilth she is a very solid master. Levi has been nurfed some and I hope a couple of the others will be 2.

I find it entertaining that lady j has been listed on both lists. I happen to think shes dead center for lists. Read as well balanced. Also for the person who noted she was bad because the other guild are good. Note perdita tops the best master list. As for cridd they are like 2 sides of the same coin and both balanced well.

1. Perdita 2. Levi (Per his version 3 I think perdita edges him out but close for top 2) 3. Kirai

I agree he has options but to use the all the starting sets abilitys you need them. My thought is what do you need to actualy use the models full ability. It has nothing do do with whats the best option just can you fully use the model you have with its listed options.

Personaly i would find the best way to define need for these starters would simply be is another model listed on the abilities that come in the set. Need simply being in order to use all the actions on the models you have you must have some thing to use for it even if that is a proxy. For example Zorada makes vodoo doll. To use her full card you have to need one. Nico for example I would say You need mindless zombies and some model to summon that happens to be non unique undead. Everything beyond that IMHO would be a just be a good idea to have.

Toss in hamlin for 5 If you land his trigger make it 6.

Only if you count ebay for a few hunded bucks. Model is done and gone as I understand it.

I agree with buck old saggy boobs is another great trick master that starts easy but has a world of cool trick moves available.